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Date:   Tue, 31 Jul 2018 13:34:22 +0200
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:     David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>
Cc:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 36/38] vfs: Add a sample program for the new mount API
 [ver #10]

On Tue 2018-07-31 11:11:53, David Howells wrote:
> Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> wrote:
> 
> > Proposal is "message %s foo %s\0param 1\0param2\0", only strings
> > allowed.
> 
> I think that's too strict and you will need to allow integer values, IP
> addresses and possibly other things also.  It could certainly have a limited
> set (e.g. no kernel pointers).

I'd always use strings at kernel->user interface. Yes, we should
support integers and IP addresses in kernel, but I'd convert them to
strings before passing them to userspace.

> You also haven't proposed what you think the internal interface should look
> like.

No, I did not.

> and then the kernel has to render the whole lot into 
> 
> Another example, in ext4 we have:
> 
> 	printk(KERN_NOTICE "EXT4-fs (%s): last error at time %u: %.*s:%d",
> 
> so we could do something like:
> 
> 	infof(fc, "EXT4-fs (%s): last error at time %u: %.*s:%d", ...);
> 
> on mount.  But the use of "%.*s" is a pain for your interface.  We can't pass
> qualifiers like "*" to userspace, so either the caller would have to copy the
> string first or the logging routines would have to edit the format string.
> Though I suppose we could leave the editing to userspace.

I guess internal interface can stay the same, at expense of complexity
in infof function. It would data according to %blablax into string,
then replace %blablax with %s. I guess we can keep infof function
simpler by only allowing certain format specifiers...

Best regards,
									Pavel
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