linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices

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Message-ID: <20180803221634-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:17:32 +0300
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:     Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Anshuman Khandual <khandual@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices

On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 12:05:07AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 04:13:09PM -0500, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > So let's differenciate the two problems of having an IOMMU (real or
> > emulated) which indeeds adds overhead etc... and using the DMA API.
> > 
> > At the moment, virtio does this all over the place:
> > 
> > 	if (use_dma_api)
> > 		dma_map/alloc_something(...)
> > 	else
> > 		use_pa
> > 
> > The idea of the patch set is to do two, somewhat orthogonal, changes
> > that together achieve what we want. Let me know where you think there
> > is "a bunch of issues" because I'm missing it:
> > 
> >  1- Replace the above if/else constructs with just calling the DMA API,
> > and have virtio, at initialization, hookup its own dma_ops that just
> > "return pa" (roughly) when the IOMMU stuff isn't used.
> > 
> > This adds an indirect function call to the path that previously didn't
> > have one (the else case above). Is that a significant/measurable
> > overhead ?
> 
> If you call it often enough it does:
> 
> https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg495413.html
> 
> >  2- Make virtio use the DMA API with our custom platform-provided
> > swiotlb callbacks when needed, that is when not using IOMMU *and*
> > running on a secure VM in our case.
> 
> And total NAK the customer platform-provided part of this.  We need
> a flag passed in from the hypervisor that the device needs all bus
> specific dma api treatment, and then just use the normal plaform
> dma mapping setup.  To get swiotlb you'll need to then use the DT/ACPI
> dma-range property to limit the addressable range, and a swiotlb
> capable plaform will use swiotlb automatically.

It seems reasonable to teach a platform to override dma-range
for a specific device e.g. in case it knows about bugs in ACPI.

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MST