linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices

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Message-ID: <20180806163440-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 16:36:43 +0300
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Anshuman Khandual <khandual@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:     Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>, robh@...nel.org,
        srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, aik@...abs.ru,
        Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>, linuxram@...ibm.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, hch@...radead.org,
        paulus@...ba.org, joe@...ches.com, david@...son.dropbear.id.au,
        linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, elfring@...rs.sourceforge.net,
        haren@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Virtio uses DMA API for all devices

On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 02:32:28PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 08/05/2018 05:54 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 08:21:26PM -0500, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2018-08-03 at 22:08 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>> Please go through these patches and review whether this approach broadly
> >>>>>> makes sense. I will appreciate suggestions, inputs, comments regarding
> >>>>>> the patches or the approach in general. Thank you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason did some work on profiling this. Unfortunately he reports
> >>>>> about 4% extra overhead from this switch on x86 with no vIOMMU.
> >>>>
> >>>> The test is rather simple, just run pktgen (pktgen_sample01_simple.sh) in
> >>>> guest and measure PPS on tap on host.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Could you supply host configuration involved please?
> >>
> >> I wonder how much of that could be caused by Spectre mitigations
> >> blowing up indirect function calls...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ben.
> > 
> > I won't be surprised. If yes I suggested a way to mitigate the overhead.
> 
> Did we get better results (lower regression due to indirect calls) with
> the suggested mitigation ? Just curious.

I'm referring to this:
	I wonder whether we can support map_sg and friends being NULL, then use
	that when mapping is an identity. A conditional branch there is likely
	very cheap.

I don't think anyone tried implementing this yes.

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MST