lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:38:41 +1000
From:   Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:     Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc:     Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>,
        Hari Vyas <hari.vyas@...adcom.com>, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
        linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, ray.jui@...adcom.com,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] pci: Proof of concept at fixing
 pci_enable_device/bridge races

On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 15:40 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 07:50:13AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > (Resent with lkml on copy)
> > 
> > [Note: This isn't meant to be merged, it need splitting at the very
> > least, see below]
> > 
> > This is something I cooked up quickly today to test if that would fix
> > my problems with large number of switch and NVME devices on POWER.
> > 
> 
> Is that a problem that can be reproduced with a qemu setup ?

With difficulty... mt-tcg might help, but you need a rather large
systems to reproduce it.

My repro-case is a 2 socket POWER9 system (about 40 cores off the top
of my mind, so 160 threads) with 72 NVME devices underneath a tree of
switches (I don't have the system at hand today to check how many).

It's possible to observe it I suppose on a smaller system (in theory a
single bridge with 2 devices is enough) but in practice the timing is
extremely hard to hit.

You need a combination of:

  - The bridges come up disabled (which is the case when Linux does the
resource assignment, such as on POWER but not on x86 unless it's
hotplug)

  - The nvme devices try to enable them simultaneously

Also the resulting error is a UR, I don't know how well qemu models
that.

On the above system, I get usually *one* device failing due to the race
out of 72, and not on every boot.

However, the bug is known (see Bjorn's reply to the other thread) "Re:
PCIe enable device races (Was: [PATCH v3] PCI: Data corruption
happening due to race condition)" on linux-pci, so I'm not the only one
with a repro-case around.

Cheers,
Ben.


Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ