linux-kernel - Re: TLB flushes on fixmap changes

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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jJQGiGwQRBGuVrmhQqyUEfRUUSD6WYokc2xezExY9ZNUg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:03:59 -0700
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@...il.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@....ibm.com>,
        Nick Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
        "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Adin Scannell <ascannell@...gle.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Subject: Re: TLB flushes on fixmap changes

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> > On Aug 26, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>> >>> I tried to convince Ingo to use this method for doing "write rarely"
>> >>> and he soundly rejected it. :) I've always liked this because AFAICT,
>> >>> it's local to the CPU. I had proposed it in
>> >>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git/commit/?h=kspp/write-rarely&id=9ab0cb2618ebbc51f830ceaa06b7d2182fe1a52d
>> >>
>> >> Ingo, can you clarify why you hate it?  I personally would rather use CR3, but CR0 seems like a fine first step, at least for text_poke.
>> >
>> > Sorry, it looks like it was tglx, not Ingo:
>> >
>> > https://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.20.1704071048360.1716@nanos
>> >
>> > This thread is long, and one thing that I think went unanswered was
>> > "why do we want this to be fast?" the answer is: for doing page table
>> > updates. Page tables are becoming a bigger target for attacks now, and
>> > it's be nice if they could stay read-only unless they're getting
>> > updated (with something like this).
>> >
>> >
>> It kind of sounds like tglx would prefer the CR3 approach. And indeed my
>> patch has a serious problem wrt the NMI code.
>
> That's exactly the problem I have with CR0. It leaves everything and some
> more writeable for any code which can interrupt that section.

I thought the point was that the implementation I suggested was
NMI-proof? (And in reading Documentation/preempt-locking.txt it sounds
like disabling interrupts is redundant to preempt_disable()? But I
don't understand how; it looks like the preempt stuff is advisory?)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security