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Message-Id: <20180830112649.4b774f401d99a8b98e12008c@kernel.org>
Date:   Thu, 30 Aug 2018 11:26:49 +0900
From:   Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>
To:     Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>
Cc:     Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/alternative: assert text_mutex is taken

On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:00:06 -0700
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:44:47PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > at 1:13 PM, Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 07:36:22PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > >> at 10:11 AM, Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> at 1:59 AM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:11:42 -0700
> > >>>> Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com> wrote:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>> Use lockdep to ensure that text_mutex is taken when text_poke() is
> > >>>>> called.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Actually it is not always taken, specifically when it is called by kgdb,
> > >>>>> so take the lock in these cases.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Can we really take a mutex in kgdb context?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> kgdb_arch_remove_breakpoint
> > >>>> <- dbg_deactivate_sw_breakpoints
> > >>>>  <- kgdb_reenter_check
> > >>>>     <- kgdb_handle_exception
> > >>>>        <- __kgdb_notify
> > >>>>          <- kgdb_ll_trap
> > >>>>            <- do_int3
> > >>>>          <- kgdb_notify
> > >>>>            <- die notifier
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> kgdb_arch_set_breakpoint
> > >>>> <- dbg_activate_sw_breakpoints
> > >>>>  <- kgdb_reenter_check
> > >>>>     <- kgdb_handle_exception
> > >>>>         ...
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Both seems called in exception context, so we can not take a mutex lock.
> > >>>> I think kgdb needs a special path.
> > >>> 
> > >>> You are correct, but I don’t want a special path. Presumably text_mutex is
> > >>> guaranteed not to be taken according to the code.
> > >>> 
> > >>> So I guess the only concern is lockdep. Do you see any problem if I change
> > >>> mutex_lock() into mutex_trylock()? It should always succeed, and I can add a
> > >>> warning and a failure path if it fails for some reason.
> > >> 
> > >> Err.. This will not work. I think I will drop this patch, since I cannot
> > >> find a proper yet simple assertion. Creating special path just for the
> > >> assertion seems wrong.
> > > 
> > > It's probably worth expanding the comment for text_poke() to call out
> > > the kgdb case and reference kgdb_arch_{set,remove}_breakpoint(), whose
> > > code and comments make it explicitly clear why its safe for them to
> > > call text_poke() without acquiring the lock.  Might prevent someone
> > > from going down this path again in the future.
> > 
> > I thought that the whole point of the patch was to avoid comments, and
> > instead enforce the right behavior. I don’t understand well enough kgdb
> > code, so I cannot attest it does the right thing. What happens if
> > kgdb_do_roundup==0?
> 
> As is, the comment is wrong because there are obviously cases where
> text_poke() is called without text_mutex being held.  I can't attest
> to the kgdb code either.  My thought was to document the exception so
> that if someone does want to try and enforce the right behavior they
> can dive right into the problem instead of having to learn of the kgdb
> gotcha the hard way.  Maybe a FIXME is the right approach?

No, kgdb ensures that the text_mutex has not been held right before
calling text_poke. So they also take care the text_mutex. I guess
kgdb_arch_{set,remove}_breakpoint() is supposed to be run under
a special circumstance, like stopping all other threads/cores.
In that case, we can just check the text_mutex is not locked.
 
Anyway, kgdb is a very rare courner case. I think if CONFIG_KGDB is
enabled, lockdep and any assertion should be disabled, since kgdb
can tweak anything in the kernel with unexpected ways...

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>

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