linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH net-next 0/5] rtnetlink: add IFA_IF_NETNSID for RTM

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Message-ID: <5e6ff247-e6c0-a5ce-e9a2-4c0bb2daf790@virtuozzo.com>
Date:   Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:53:19 +0300
From:   Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...tuozzo.com>
To:     Jiri Benc <jbenc@...hat.com>
Cc:     Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...onical.com>,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        davem@...emloft.net, kuznet@....inr.ac.ru, yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org,
        pombredanne@...b.com, kstewart@...uxfoundation.org,
        gregkh@...uxfoundation.org, dsahern@...il.com, fw@...len.de,
        lucien.xin@...il.com, jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com,
        nicolas.dichtel@...nd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/5] rtnetlink: add IFA_IF_NETNSID for
 RTM_GETADDR

On 03.09.2018 16:50, Jiri Benc wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:41:45 +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
>> But this is a synthetic test, while I asked about real workflow.
>> Is this real problem for lxd, and there is observed performance
>> decrease?
> 
> It's actually not as much a performance problem but rather the only way
> to get the data in some situations. Namely, when you have only netnsid.
> This happens e.g. when you want to query a veth peer in another netns.
> 
> setns() requires a file descriptor which you don't have. Nor there is
> a way to convert netnsid to a fd.
> 
> While developing the IFLA_IF_NETNSID patch, I was first thinking about
> implementing an API doing the conversion. The problem is there's no
> good place to put this into. It can't be done over netlink: netlink is
> unreliable and you can't have the kernel open a fd for you and lose it.
> There's no ioctl to use. So we'd be left with a procfs/sysfs or a
> syscall.
> 
> Using netnsid to refer to the target netns seems to be a nice solution -
> after all, netnsid is the identifier to use in netlink.

Ok, I have no objections, just mentioning that generic problem.

Thanks,
Kirill