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Message-ID: <20180906143842.xlxcg5notwdaflww@queper01-lin>
Date:   Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:38:44 +0100
From:   Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@....com>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>,
        Chris Redpath <chris.redpath@....com>,
        Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>,
        Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@...aro.org>,
        Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
        Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Steve Muckle <smuckle@...gle.com>, adharmap@...eaurora.org,
        Saravana Kannan <skannan@...eaurora.org>,
        Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@...eaurora.org>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@...il.com>,
        Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        currojerez@...eup.net, Javi Merino <javi.merino@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 13/14] sched/topology: Make Energy Aware Scheduling
 depend on schedutil

Hi Rafael,

On Thursday 06 Sep 2018 at 11:18:55 (+0200), Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> I'm not a particular fan of notifiers to be honest and you don't need
> to add an extra chain just in order to be able to register a callback
> from a single user.

Right. I agree there are alternatives to using notifiers. I used them
because they're existing infrastructure, and because they let me do what
I want without too much troubles, which are two important points.

> That can be achieved with a single callback
> pointer too, but also you could just call a function exported by the
> scheduler directly from where in the cpufreq code it needs to be
> called.

Are you thinking about something comparable to what is done in
cpufreq_add_update_util_hook() (kernel/sched/cpufreq.c) for example ?
That would probably have the same drawback as my current implementation,
that is that the scheduler is notified of _all_ governor changes, not
only changes to/from sugov although this is the only thing we care about
for EAS.

We could also hook things in sugov_start & sugov_stop directly, and keep
all changes into the scheduler ... That is slightly harder to implement
on the scheduler topology side, though.

Thoughts ?

> > Also, is there any hope that the 12 first patches could make it in 4.20
> > on their own ? Or is it already too late ?
> 
> I'm walking through them right now, albeit somewhat slowly due to
> various distractions, so we'll see.

Thanks !
Quentin

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