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Message-ID: <20180921231545.GC2966@thunk.org>
Date:   Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:15:45 -0400
From:   "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>
To:     "\\0xDynamite" <dreamingforward@...il.com>
Cc:     "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Edward Cree <ec429@...tab.net>,
        Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.

People can decide who they want to respond to, but I'm going to gently
suggest that before people think about responding to a particular
e-mail, that they do a quick check using "git log --author=xyzzy@...mple.com"
then decide how much someone appears to be a member of the community
before deciding how and whether their thoughts are relevant.

There are a lot of strong feelings on this issue, and allowing people
who aren't members of the Linux kernel development community, to
escalate the rhetoric --- either in the pro- or anti- CoC direction,
and whether on mailing lists, github comment threads, Twitter, or
Reddit --- is not helpful.

For example....

> >* Showing empathy towards other community members
> 
> Your pussy hurts?  Maybe you should have just accepted that your a boy!
> 
> I think Linus is perfectly fine in conduct.   I mean, this bullshit
> pressure comes from corporations and other wierd places (<subtext>all
> seeing eye</subtext>) that want to "help".  

There are people commenting from all sides that are wanting to "help".
But I hope that it is obvious that the above text is *not* *helpful*.
Mark, please stop.

						- Ted

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