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Message-ID: <a8faeb4a-549a-05b3-6bb9-5611a1cff850@oracle.com>
Date:   Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:24:49 +0800
From:   "jianchao.wang" <jianchao.w.wang@...cle.com>
To:     Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@....org>, axboe@...nel.dk,
        tj@...nel.org, kent.overstreet@...il.com, ming.lei@...hat.com,
        bart.vanassche@....com
Cc:     linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] blk-mq: rework queue freeze and preempt-only


Hi Bart

On 09/21/2018 10:13 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 9/20/18 6:51 PM, jianchao.wang wrote:
>> Hi Bart
>>
>> On 09/21/2018 01:06 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 18:18 +0800, Jianchao Wang wrote:
>>>> The current queue freeze depending on percpu_ref_kil/reinit has a limit that
>>>> we have drain the requests before unfreeze the queue.
>>>>
>>>> Let's rework the queue freeze feature as following:
>>>> 1. introduce __percpu_ref_get_many.
>>>>     It is same with original percpu_ref_get_many, but just need callers to provide
>>>>     sched rcu critical section. We will put the __percpu_ref_get_many and our own
>>>>     condition checking under rcu_read_lock_sched. With this new helper interface,
>>>>     we could save an extra rcu_read_lock_sched.
>>>> 2. rework the blk_queue_enter as:
>>>>         rcu_read_lock_sched()
>>>>     if condition check true
>>>>       __percpu_ref_get_many(&q->q_usage_counter, 1)
>>>>     else
>>>>       goto wait
>>>>     rcu_read_unlock_sched()
>>>> 3. use percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic/percpu to switch mode directly.
>>>>
>>>> Then we could unfreeze the queue w/o draining requests.
>>>> In addition, preempt-only mode code could be simplified.
>>> Hello Jianchao,
>>>                                                                             =
>>> Thanks for having taken a look. However, the approach of this patch series
>>> may be more complicated than necessary. Had you considered something like
>>> the patch below?
>>
>> This patch is just a trying that let our life easier w/o changing anything in percpu-ref code. :)
>> In fact, the 1st patch which introduces a new non-functional-changing helper interface in
>> percpu-ref code is not necessary.
>>
>> This patchset just implement our own condition checking in blk_queue_enter instead of depending on
>> __PERCPU_REF_DEAD checking in percpu_ref_tryget_live.
>>
>> Then we could do more thing here, like:
>>   - unfreeze the queue without draining requests.
>>   - check whether q->q_usage_counter is zero
>>   - add other gate conditions into blk_queue_enter, such as preempt-only, even any others.
>>
>> So why not try it ?
> 
> Hello Jianchao,
> 
> Some time ago Tejun wrote that he wants to keep the dependency of the percpu_ref implementation on rcu-sched inside the percpu_ref implementation because he would like to have the freedom to switch to regular RCU. Your patch series makes the dependency of percpu_ref counters on rcu-sched visible outside the percpu_ref implementation. I think that's a disadvantage of your approach. Tejun, please correct me if I misunderstood you.

It will be easy to fix this through adding some other interfaces like:

percpu_ref_lock/unlock
{
    rcu_read_lock/unlock_sched
}

But things is up to Tejun that whether he agrees to do like this.
 
Thanks
Jianchao
 

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