Date:   Sun, 23 Sep 2018 06:38:40 -0400
From:   Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>
To:     Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...tlin.com>
Cc:     Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@...tlin.com>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        DTML <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@...nel.org>,
        Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        linux-mtd <linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Brian Norris <computersforpeace@...il.com>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: rawnand: denali: add DT property to specify skipped
 bytes in OOB

2018-09-22 4:11 GMT-04:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...tlin.com>:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:41:11 +0200
> Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@...tlin.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Masahiro,
>>
>> Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com> wrote on Sat, 8 Sep
>> 2018 01:10:25 +0900:
>>
>> > Hi Boris,
>> >
>> > 2018-09-07 23:53 GMT+09:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...tlin.com>:
>> > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 23:42:53 +0900
>> > > Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Boris,
>> > >>
>> > >> 2018-09-07 23:08 GMT+09:00 Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...tlin.com>:
>> > >> > Hi Masahiro,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Fri,  7 Sep 2018 19:56:23 +0900
>> > >> > Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> NAND devices need additional data area (OOB) for error correction,
>> > >> >> but it is also used for Bad Block Marker (BBM).  In many cases, the
>> > >> >> first byte in OOB is used for BBM, but the location actually depends
>> > >> >> on chip vendors.  The NAND controller should preserve the precious
>> > >> >> BBM to keep track of bad blocks.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> In Denali IP, the SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES register is used to specify
>> > >> >> the number of bytes to skip from the start of OOB.  The ECC engine
>> > >> >> will automatically skip the specified number of bytes when it gets
>> > >> >> access to OOB area.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> The same value for SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES should be used between
>> > >> >> firmware and the operating system if you intend to use the NAND
>> > >> >> device across the control hand-off.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> In fact, the current denali.c code expects firmware to have already
>> > >> >> set the SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES register, then reads the value out.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> If no firmware (or bootloader) has initialized the controller, the
>> > >> >> register value is zero, which is the default after power-on-reset.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> In other words, the Linux driver cannot initialize the controller
>> > >> >> by itself.  You cannot support the reset control either because
>> > >> >> resetting the controller will get register values lost.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> This commit adds a way to specify it via DT.  If the property
>> > >> >> "denali,oob-skip-bytes" exists, the value will be set to the register.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hm, do we really need to make this config customizable? I mean, either
>> > >> > you have a large-page NAND (page > 512 bytes) and the 2 first bytes
>> > >> > must be reserved for the BBM or you have a small-page NAND and the BBM
>> > >> > is at position 4 and 5. Are you sure people configure that differently?
>> > >> > Don't you always have SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES set to 6 or 2?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> As I said in the patch description,
>> > >> I need to use the same SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES value
>> > >> across firmware, boot-loader, Linux, and whatever.
>> > >>
>> > >> I want to set the value to 8 for my platform
>> > >> because the on-chip boot ROM expects 8.
>> > >> I cannot change it since the boot ROM is hard-wired.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> The boot ROM skips 8 bytes in OOB
>> > >> when it loads images from the on-board NAND device.
>> > >>
>> > >> So, when I update the image from U-Boot or Linux,
>> > >> I need to make sure to set the register to 8.
>> > >>
>> > >> If I update the image with a different value,
>> > >> the Boot ROM fails to boot.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> When the system has booted from NAND,
>> > >> the register is already set to 8.  It works.
>> > >>
>> > >> However, when the system has booted from eMMC,
>> > >> the register is not initialized by anyone.
>> > >> I am searching for a way to set the register to 8
>> > >> in this case.
>
> Maybe there's a solution which does not involve attaching a per-compat
> value or adding a DT prop. If the FW/bootloader has not initialized this
> register the value is 0, right? Why not testing the value and
> assigning it to the default (8) if it's not been initialized by the
> bootloader. That shouldn't break existing platforms since I don't think
> 0 is a valid value anyway.
>
>         denali->oob_skip_bytes = ioread32(denali->reg +
>                                           SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES);
>         if (!denali->oob_skip_bytes) {
>                 denali->oob_skip_bytes = DEFAULT_OOB_SKIP_BYTES;
>                 iowrite32(denali->oob_skip_bytes,
>                           denali->reg + SPARE_AREA_SKIP_BYTES);
>         }
>


I prefer per-compatible values to a fixed default.


I'd like to set the register to 8 unless set otherwise
because the boot ROM on my platform (Socionext UniPhier SoCs)
uses that value.

Other platforms like Altera SOCFPGA may want to use a different value
(at least, I do not know what is the preferred value).



-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada

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