linux-kernel - Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.

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Date:   Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:30:31 -0400
From:   "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@...rsus.com>
To:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
        Christoph Conrads <contact@...istoph-conrads.name>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Edward Cree <ec429@...tab.net>,
        Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.

Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@....edu>:
> There have been those who have characterized the GPL as being more
> than just a license, but also a political statement.  And yet, many
> projects, include Linus, use the GPL without necessarily subscribing
> to all of Richard Stallman's positions, political or otherwise.

The case isn't parallel. Every kernel dev knew they were joining a
commons defined by GPL terms when they signed on.  Regulation of
soi-disant "hateful" speech and "diversity" objectives, on the other
hand, are a *new* set of claims and norms not entailed in established
practice.

There ought to be much broader consensus before anything like that is done -
and I would say that even about new political claims I myself supported.
Instead, what we have is open revolt from a dissident faction that thinks
the project would be better destroyed than under the CoC.

That should be a clue that imposing the CoC without a lot of public
discussion and preparation was a mistake, and it should be revereted until
at least rough consensus in fovor of some improvement on the old
Code is achieved.
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