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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 09:54:05 -0700
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@...tonmail.ch>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@...ho.nsa.gov>,
Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH security-next v4 23/32] selinux: Remove boot parameter
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:33 AM, Jordan Glover
<Golden_Miller83@...tonmail.ch> wrote:
> It's always documented as: "selinux=1 security=selinux" so security= should
> still do the job and selinux=1 become no-op, no?
The v3 patch set worked this way, yes. (The per-LSM enable defaults
were set by the LSM. Only in the case of "lsm.disable=selinux" would
the above stop working.)
John did not like the separation of having two CONFIG and two
bootparams mixing the controls. The v3 resolution rules were:
SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE overrides CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE.
SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE overrides CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE.
selinux= overrides SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE.
apparmor.enabled= overrides SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE.
apparmor= overrides apparmor.enabled=.
lsm.enable= overrides selinux=.
lsm.enable= overrides apparmor=.
lsm.disable= overrides lsm.enable=.
major LSM _omission_ from security= (if present) overrides lsm.enable.
v4 removed the per-LSM boot params and CONFIGs at John's request, but
Paul and Stephen don't want this for SELinux.
The pieces for reducing conflict with CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE and
lsm.{enable,disable}= were:
1- Remove SECURITY_APPARMOR_BOOTPARAM_VALUE.
2- Remove apparmor= and apparmor.enabled=.
3- Remove SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE.
4- Remove selinux=.
v4 used all of 1-4 above. SELinux says "4" cannot happen as it's too
commonly used. Would 3 be okay for SELinux?
John, with 4 not happening, do you prefer to not have 2 happen?
With CONFIGs removed, then the boot time defaults are controlled by
CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE, but the boot params continue to work as before.
Only the use of the new lsm.enable= and lsm.disable= would override
the per-LSM boot params. This would clean up the build-time CONFIG
weirdness, and leave the existing boot params as before (putting us
functionally in between the v3 and v4 series).
-Kees
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Kees Cook
Pixel Security
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