linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] patchable function pointers for pluggable crypto routines

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Date:   Fri, 5 Oct 2018 19:15:13 +0200
From:   Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>
To:     "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] patchable function pointers for pluggable crypto routines

On 5 October 2018 at 15:37, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@...c4.com> wrote:
...
> Therefore, I think this patch goes in exactly the wrong direction. I
> mean, if you want to introduce dynamic patching as a means for making
> the crypto API's dynamic dispatch stuff not as slow in a post-spectre
> world, sure, go for it; that may very well be a good idea. But
> presenting it as an alternative to Zinc very widely misses the point and
> serves to prolong a series of bad design choices, which are now able to
> be rectified by putting energy into Zinc instead.
>

This series has nothing to do with dynamic dispatch: the call sites
call crypto functions using ordinary function calls (although my
example uses CRC-T10DIF), and these calls are redirected via what is
essentially a PLT entry, so that we can supsersede those routines at
runtime.