Message-ID: <20181008172303.4f06cd94@coco.lan>
Date:   Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:23:03 -0300
From:   Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@...nel.org>
To:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc:     ksummit-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the
 enforcement paragraph pending community discussion

Em Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:37:31 -0700
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com> escreveu:

> Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities outlined in
> the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct.  Since there is concern
> that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the
> enforcement clauses to give the community time to consider and debate how this
> should be handled.
> 
> Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>


With my maintainer's hat, my main concern would be solved with this hunk:

diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
index ab7c24b5478c..f07d51129d4b 100644
--- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
+++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ Maintainers are responsible for clarifying the standards of acceptable behavior
 and are expected to take appropriate and fair corrective action in response to
 any instances of unacceptable behavior.
 
-Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject
+Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject
 comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are
 not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any
 contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening,

The previous text seems too much legal for my taste.

> ---
>  Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst | 15 ---------------
>  1 file changed, 15 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
> index aa40e34e7785..4dd90987305b 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
> @@ -59,21 +59,6 @@ address, posting via an official social media account, or acting as an appointed
>  representative at an online or offline event. Representation of a project may be
>  further defined and clarified by project maintainers.
>  
> -Enforcement
> -===========
> -
> -Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable behavior may be
> -reported by contacting the Technical Advisory Board (TAB) at
> -<tab@...ts.linux-foundation.org>. All complaints will be reviewed and
> -investigated and will result in a response that is deemed necessary and
> -appropriate to the circumstances. The TAB is obligated to maintain
> -confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident.  Further details of
> -specific enforcement policies may be posted separately.
> -
> -Maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good faith may
> -face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other members of the
> -project’s leadership.
> -
>  Attribution
>  ===========

After looking at the comments, I would just keep TAB as a point of contact
for CoC violations:

diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
index ab7c24b5478c..fa908dbff51c 100644
--- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
+++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
@@ -59,20 +59,12 @@ address, posting via an official social media account, or acting as an appointed
 representative at an online or offline event. Representation of a project may be
 further defined and clarified by project maintainers.
 
-Enforcement
-===========
+Reports
+=======
 
 Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable behavior may be
 reported by contacting the Technical Advisory Board (TAB) at
-<tab@...ts.linux-foundation.org>. All complaints will be reviewed and
-investigated and will result in a response that is deemed necessary and
-appropriate to the circumstances. The TAB is obligated to maintain
-confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident.  Further details of
-specific enforcement policies may be posted separately.
-
-Maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good faith may
-face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other members of the
-project’s leadership.
+<tab@...ts.linux-foundation.org>.
 
 Attribution
 ===========

Keeping the rest implicit. This can be revisited after having more
discussions.

Thanks,
Mauro

-

Both hunks are shown below.


diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
index ab7c24b5478c..df44867a2db5 100644
--- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
+++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ Maintainers are responsible for clarifying the standards of acceptable behavior
 and are expected to take appropriate and fair corrective action in response to
 any instances of unacceptable behavior.
 
-Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject
+Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject
 comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are
 not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any
 contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening,
@@ -59,20 +59,12 @@ address, posting via an official social media account, or acting as an appointed
 representative at an online or offline event. Representation of a project may be
 further defined and clarified by project maintainers.
 
-Enforcement
-===========
+Reports
+=======
 
 Instances of abusive, harassing, or otherwise unacceptable behavior may be
 reported by contacting the Technical Advisory Board (TAB) at
-<tab@...ts.linux-foundation.org>. All complaints will be reviewed and
-investigated and will result in a response that is deemed necessary and
-appropriate to the circumstances. The TAB is obligated to maintain
-confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident.  Further details of
-specific enforcement policies may be posted separately.
-
-Maintainers who do not follow or enforce the Code of Conduct in good faith may
-face temporary or permanent repercussions as determined by other members of the
-project’s leadership.
+<tab@...ts.linux-foundation.org>.
 
 Attribution
 ===========

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