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Date:   Mon, 8 Oct 2018 09:51:16 +0200
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Doug Smythies <dsmythies@...us.net>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] cpuidle: menu: Fixes, optimizations and cleanups

Hi Doug,

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 8:02 AM Doug Smythies <dsmythies@...us.net> wrote:
>
> On 2018.10.03 23:56 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 11:51 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> This series fixes a couple of issues with the menu governor, optimizes it
> >> somewhat and makes a couple of cleanups in it.  Please refer to the
> >> patch changelogs for details.
> >>
> >> All of the changes in the series are straightforward in my view.  The
> >> first two patches are fixes, the rest is optimizations and cleanups.
> >
> > I'm inclined to take this stuff in for 4.20 if nobody has problems
> > with it, so please have a look if you care (and you should, because
> > the code in question is run on all tickless systems out there).
>
> Hi Rafael,
>
> I did tests with kernel 4.19-rc6 as a baseline reference and then
> with 8 of your patches (&8patches in the graphs legend):
>
> cpuidle: menu: Replace data->predicted_us with local variable
>   . as required to get this set of 6 to then apply.
> This set of 6 patches.
> cpuidle: poll_state: Revise loop termination condition
>
> Recall I also did some testing in late August [1], with
> a kernel that was just a few hundred commits before 4.19-rc1.
> The baseline is now way different. While I don't know why,
> I bisected the kernel and either made a mistake, or it was:
>
> first bad commit: [06e386a1db54ab6a671e103e929b590f7a88f0e3]
> Merge tag 'fbdev-v4.19' of https://github.com/bzolnier/linux
>
> Anyway, and for reference, included on some of the graphs
> is the old data from late August (legend name "4.18+3rjw
> (Aug test)")
>
> Test 1: A Thomas Ilsche type "powernightmare" test:
> (forever ((10 times - variable usec sleep) 0.999 seconds sleep) X 40 staggered threads.
> Where the "variable" was from 0.05 to 5 in steps of 0.05, for the first ~200 minutes of the test.
> (note: overheads mean that actual loop times are quite different.)
> And then from 5 to 50 in steps of 1, for the remaining 100 minutes of the test.
> (Shortened by 900 minutes from the way the test was done in August.)
> Each step ran for 2 minutes. The system was idle for 1 minute at the start, and a few
> minutes at the end of the graphs.
>
> The power and idle statistics graphs are here:
> http://fast.smythies.com/linux-pm/k419/k419-pn-sweep-rjw.htm
>
> Observations:
>
> While the graphs are pretty and such, the only significant
> difference is the idle state 0 percentages go down a lot
> with the 8 patches. However the number of idle state 0
> entries per minute goes up. To present the same information
> in a different way a trace was done (at 9 Gigabytes in
> 2 minutes):

The difference in the idle state 0 usage is a consequence of the "poll
idle" patch and is expected.

> &8patches
> Idle State 0: Total Entries: 10091412 : time (seconds): 49.447025
> Idle State 1: Total Entries: 49332297 : time (seconds): 375.943064
> Idle State 2: Total Entries: 311810 : time (seconds): 2.626403
>
> k4.19-rc6
> Idle State 0: Total Entries: 9162465 : time (seconds): 70.650566
> Idle State 1: Total Entries: 47592671 : time (seconds): 373.625083
> Idle State 2: Total Entries: 266212 : time (seconds): 2.278159
>
> Conclusions: Behaves as expected.

Right. :-)

> Test 2: pipe test 2 CPUs, one core. CPU test:
>
> The average loop times graph is here:
> http://fast.smythies.com/linux-pm/k419/k419-rjw-pipe-1core.png
>
> The power and idle statistics graphs are here:
> http://fast.smythies.com/linux-pm/k419/k419-rjw-pipe-1core.htm
>
> Conclusions:
>
> Better performance at the cost of more power with
> the patch set, but late August had both better performance
> and less power.
>
> Overall idle entries and exits are about the same, but way
> way more idle state 0 entries and exits with the patch set.

Same as above (and expected too).

> Supporting: trace summary (note: such a heavy load on the trace
> system (~6 gigabytes in 2 minutes) costs about 25% in performance):
>
> k4.16-rc6 pipe
> Idle State 0: Total Entries: 76638 : time (seconds): 0.193166
> Idle State 1: Total Entries: 37825999 : time (seconds): 23.886772
> Idle State 2: Total Entries: 49 : time (seconds): 0.007908
>
> &8patches
> Idle State 0: Total Entries: 37632104 : time (seconds): 26.097220
> Idle State 1: Total Entries: 397 : time (seconds): 0.020021
> Idle State 2: Total Entries: 208 : time (seconds): 0.031052
>
> With rjw 8 patch set (1st col is usecs duration, 2nd col
> is number of occurrences in 2 minutes):
>
> Idle State: 0  Summary:
> 0 24401500
> 1 13153259
> 2 19807
> 3 32731
> 4 802
> 5 346
> 6 1554
> 7 20087
> 8 1849
> 9 150
> 10 9
> 11 10
>
> Idle State: 1  Summary:
> 0 29
> 1 44
> 2 15
> 3 45
> 4 5
> 5 26
> 6 2
> 7 24
> 8 4
> 9 21
> 10 6
> 11 39
> 12 15
> 13 38
> 14 14
> 15 27
> 16 10
> 17 12
> 18 1
> 35 1
> 89 1
> 135 1
> 678 1
> 991 2
> 995 3
> 996 1
> 997 8
> 998 1
> 999 1
>
> Kernel 4.19-rc6 reference:
>
> Idle State: 0  Summary:
> 0 17212
> 1 7516
> 2 34737
> 3 14763
> 4 2312
> 5 74
> 6 3
> 7 3
> 8 3
> 9 4
> 10 5
> 11 5
> 40 1
>
> Idle State: 1  Summary:
> 0 36073601
> 1 1662728
> 2 67985
> 3 106
> 4 22
> 5 8
> 6 2214
> 7 11037
> 8 7110
> 9 1156
> 10 1
> 11 1
> 13 2
> 23 1
> 29 1
> 99 1
> 554 1
> 620 1
> 846 1
> 870 1
> 936 1
> 944 1
> 963 1
> 972 1
> 989 1
> 991 1
> 993 1
> 994 1
> 995 2
> 996 2
> 997 6
> 998 3
>
> Test 3: iperf test:
>
> Method: Be an iperf client to 3 servers at once.
> Packets are small on purpose, we want the highest
> frequency of packets, not fastest payload delivery.
>
> Performance:
>
> Kernel 4.19: 79.9 + 23.5 + 32.8 = 136.2 Mbits/Sec.
> &8patches:   78.6 + 23.2 + 33.0 = 134.8 Mbits/Sec.
>
> Kernel 4.19 average processor package power: 12.73 watts.
> &8patches average processor package power: 12.99 watts.
>
> The power and idle statistics graphs are here:
> http://fast.smythies.com/linux-pm/k419/k419-iperf.htm
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Marginally less performance and marginally more power
> used with the 8 patch set.
>
> Test 4: long idle test
>
> Just under 8 hours of at idle.
> (no pretty graphs)
>
> Averages (per minute):
>
> Kernel 4.19:
> % time in idle state 0: 1.76811E-05
> % time in idle state 1: 0.001501241
> % time in idle state 2: 0.002349672
> % time in idle state 3: 0.000432757
> % time in idle state 4: 100.0047484
> Idle state 0 entries: 2.470715835
> Idle state 1 entries: 27.84164859
> Idle state 2 entries: 26.02169197
> Idle state 3 entries: 4.600867679
> Idle state 4 entries: 1487.260304
> Processor package power: 3.668
>
> &8patches:
> % time in idle state 0: 4.76854E-06
> % time in idle state 1: 0.000752083
> % time in idle state 2: 0.001242119
> % time in idle state 3: 0.000408944
> % time in idle state 4: 100.0065453
> Idle state 0 entries: 4.213483146
> Idle state 1 entries: 16.42696629
> Idle state 2 entries: 16.75730337
> Idle state 3 entries: 4.541573034
> Idle state 4 entries: 1464.083146
> Processor package power: 3.667
>
> Conclusion: O.K.
>
> Test 5: intel-cpufreq schedutil specific test:
>
> Recall previously there were some significant
> improvements with this governor and the idle changes
> earlier this year.
> (no pretty graphs)
>
> Conclusion: No detectable differences.
>
> (sorry for the lack of detail here.)
>
> [1] https://marc.info/?l=linux-pm&m=153531591826719&w=2

Thanks a lot for the data and analysis, much appreciated!

Cheers,
Rafael

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