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Message-ID: <20181008181815.pwnqxngj22mhm2vj@brauner.io>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 20:18:16 +0200
From: Christian Brauner <christian@...uner.io>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
Cc: Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org, suda.akihiro@....ntt.co.jp,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] seccomp: add a way to get a listener fd from
ptrace
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 06:42:00PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 6:21 PM Christian Brauner <christian@...uner.io> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 05:33:22PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 5:16 PM Christian Brauner <christian@...uner.io> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 09:11:16AM -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > > > > As an alternative to SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_GET_LISTENER, perhaps a ptrace()
> > > > > version which can acquire filters is useful. There are at least two reasons
> > > > > this is preferable, even though it uses ptrace:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. You can control tasks that aren't cooperating with you
> > > > > 2. You can control tasks whose filters block sendmsg() and socket(); if the
> > > > > task installs a filter which blocks these calls, there's no way with
> > > > > SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_GET_LISTENER to get the fd out to the privileged task.
> > > >
> > > > So for the slow of mind aka me:
> > > > I'm not sure I completely understand this problem. Can you outline how
> > > > sendmsg() and socket() are involved in this?
> > > >
> > > > I'm also not sure that this holds (but I might misunderstand the
> > > > problem) afaict, you could do try to get the fd out via CLONE_FILES and
> > > > other means so something like:
> > > >
> > > > // let's pretend the libc wrapper for clone actually has sane semantics
> > > > pid = clone(CLONE_FILES);
> > > > if (pid == 0) {
> > > > fd = seccomp(SECCOMP_SET_MODE_FILTER, SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_NEW_LISTENER, &prog);
> > > >
> > > > // Now this fd will be valid in both parent and child.
> > > > // If you haven't blocked it you can inform the parent what
> > > > // the fd number is via pipe2(). If you have blocked it you can
> > > > // use dup2() and dup to a known fd number.
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > v2: fix a bug where listener mode was not unset when an unused fd was not
> > > > > available
> > > > > v3: fix refcounting bug (Oleg)
> > > > > v4: * change the listener's fd flags to be 0
> > > > > * rename GET_LISTENER to NEW_LISTENER (Matthew)
> > > > > v5: * add capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) requirement
> > > > > v7: * point the new listener at the right filter (Jann)
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>
> > > > > CC: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
> > > > > CC: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
> > > > > CC: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
> > > > > CC: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
> > > > > CC: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
> > > > > CC: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>
> > > > > CC: Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@...onical.com>
> > > > > CC: Akihiro Suda <suda.akihiro@....ntt.co.jp>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > include/linux/seccomp.h | 7 ++
> > > > > include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h | 2 +
> > > > > kernel/ptrace.c | 4 ++
> > > > > kernel/seccomp.c | 31 +++++++++
> > > > > tools/testing/selftests/seccomp/seccomp_bpf.c | 68 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > 5 files changed, 112 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/seccomp.h b/include/linux/seccomp.h
> > > > > index 017444b5efed..234c61b37405 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/linux/seccomp.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/linux/seccomp.h
> > > > > @@ -83,6 +83,8 @@ static inline int seccomp_mode(struct seccomp *s)
> > > > > #ifdef CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER
> > > > > extern void put_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk);
> > > > > extern void get_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk);
> > > > > +extern long seccomp_new_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > > > + unsigned long filter_off);
> > > > > #else /* CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER */
> > > > > static inline void put_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > > > > {
> > > > > @@ -92,6 +94,11 @@ static inline void get_seccomp_filter(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > > > > {
> > > > > return;
> > > > > }
> > > > > +static inline long seccomp_new_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > > > + unsigned long filter_off)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > + return -EINVAL;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > #endif /* CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER */
> > > > >
> > > > > #if defined(CONFIG_SECCOMP_FILTER) && defined(CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE)
> > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h b/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
> > > > > index d5a1b8a492b9..e80ecb1bd427 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ptrace.h
> > > > > @@ -73,6 +73,8 @@ struct seccomp_metadata {
> > > > > __u64 flags; /* Output: filter's flags */
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > +#define PTRACE_SECCOMP_NEW_LISTENER 0x420e
> > > > > +
> > > > > /* Read signals from a shared (process wide) queue */
> > > > > #define PTRACE_PEEKSIGINFO_SHARED (1 << 0)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/ptrace.c b/kernel/ptrace.c
> > > > > index 21fec73d45d4..289960ac181b 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/ptrace.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/ptrace.c
> > > > > @@ -1096,6 +1096,10 @@ int ptrace_request(struct task_struct *child, long request,
> > > > > ret = seccomp_get_metadata(child, addr, datavp);
> > > > > break;
> > > > >
> > > > > + case PTRACE_SECCOMP_NEW_LISTENER:
> > > > > + ret = seccomp_new_listener(child, addr);
> > > > > + break;
> > > > > +
> > > > > default:
> > > > > break;
> > > > > }
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/seccomp.c b/kernel/seccomp.c
> > > > > index 44a31ac8373a..17685803a2af 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/seccomp.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/seccomp.c
> > > > > @@ -1777,4 +1777,35 @@ static struct file *init_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > > >
> > > > > return ret;
> > > > > }
> > > > > +
> > > > > +long seccomp_new_listener(struct task_struct *task,
> > > > > + unsigned long filter_off)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > + struct seccomp_filter *filter;
> > > > > + struct file *listener;
> > > > > + int fd;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > > > > + return -EACCES;
> > > >
> > > > I know this might have been discussed a while back but why exactly do we
> > > > require CAP_SYS_ADMIN in init_userns and not in the target userns? What
> > > > if I want to do a setns()fd, CLONE_NEWUSER) to the target process and
> > > > use ptrace from in there?
> > >
> > > See https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAG48ez3R+ZJ1vwGkDfGzKX2mz6f=jjJWsO5pCvnH68P+RKO8Ow@mail.gmail.com/
> > > . Basically, the problem is that this doesn't just give you capability
> > > over the target task, but also over every other task that has the same
> > > filter installed; you need some sort of "is the caller capable over
> > > the filter and anyone who uses it" check.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > But then this new ptrace feature as it stands is imho currently broken.
> > If you can install a seccomp filter with SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF if you
> > are ns_cpabable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) and also get an fd via seccomp() itself
> > if you are ns_cpabable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) then either the new ptrace() api
> > extension should be fixed to allow for this too or the seccomp() way of
> > retrieving the pid - which I really think we want - needs to be fixed to
> > require capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) too.
> > The solution where both require ns_capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) is - imho -
> > the preferred way to solve this.
> > Everything else will just be confusing.
>
> First you say "broken", then you say "confusing". Which one do you mean?
Both. It's broken in so far as it places a seemingly unnecessary
restriction that could be fixed. You outlined one possible fix yourself
in the link you provided. And it's confusing in so far as there is a way
via seccomp() to get the fd without said requirement.
>
> Regarding requiring ns_capable() for ptrace: That means that you'll
> have to stash namespace information in the seccomp filter. You'd also
> potentially be eliding the LSM check that would normally have to occur
> between the tracer and the tracee; but I guess that's probably fine?
> CAP_SYS_ADMIN in the init namespace already has some abilities that
> LSMs can't observe; you could argue that CAP_SYS_ADMIN in another
> namespace should have similar semantics, but I'm not sure whether that
> matches what the LSM people want as semantics.
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