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Date:   Mon, 8 Oct 2018 21:17:10 -0500
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Matthew Helsley <mhelsley@...are.com>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Jason Baron <jbaron@...mai.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
        ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [POC][RFC][PATCH 1/2] jump_function: Addition of new feature
 "jump_function"

On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 09:29:56AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Oct 8, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 01:33:14AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>> Can't we hijack the relocation records for these functions before they
> >>> get thrown out in the (final) link pass or something?
> >> 
> >> I could be talking out my arse here, but I thought we could do this,
> >> too, then changed my mind.  The relocation records give us the
> >> location of the call or jump operand, but they don’t give the address
> >> of the beginning of the instruction.
> > 
> > But that's like 1 byte before the operand, right? We could even double check
> > this by reading back that byte and ensuring it is in fact 0xE8 (CALL).
> > 
> > AFAICT there is only the _1_ CALL encoding, and that is the 5 byte: E8 <PLT32>,
> > so if we have the PLT32 location, we also have the instruction location. Or am
> > I missing something?
> 
> There’s also JMP and Jcc, any of which can be used for rail calls, but
> those are also one byte. I suppose GCC is unlikely to emit a prefixed
> form of any of these. So maybe we really can assume they’re all one
> byte.

I'm pretty sure only a basic JMP is used for tail calls.

> But there is a nasty potential special case: anything that takes the
> function’s address. This includes jump tables, computed gotos, and
> plain old function pointers. And I suspect that any of these could
> have one of the rather large number of CALL/JMP/Jcc bytes before the
> relocation by coincidence.

But those special cases aren't in a text section, right?  If we just
make sure the relocations are applied to a text section, and that
they're preceded by the CALL or JMP byte, wouldn't that be sufficient?

I'm not really convinced we need objtool for this, maybe I'll try
whipping up a POC.

-- 
Josh

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