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Message-ID: <20181019192855.locy4z5dzsiqfisa@treble>
Date:   Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:28:55 -0500
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>
Cc:     Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@...mail.de>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] objtool: move libelf check out of top Makefile

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 03:04:22PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:16 AM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:51:40AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> > > > ifdef CONFIG_UNWINDER_ORC
> > > >
> > > > chk_unwinder_orc = echo "int main() {}" | $(HOSTCC) -xc -o /dev/null -lelf -
> > > > msg_unwinder_orc = "Cannot build objtool to generate ORC metadata for CONFIG_UNWINDER_ORC=y.  " \
> > > >                        "Please install libelf-dev, libelf-devel or elfutils-libelf-devel."
> > > > toolcheck-$(CONFIG_UNWINDER_ORC) += unwinder_orc
> > > >
> > > > else
> > > >
> > > > chk_stack_validation = echo "int main() {}" | $(HOSTCC) -xc -o /dev/null -lelf -
> > > > msg_stack_validation = "Cannot build objtool for CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION=y.  " \
> > > >                        "Please install libelf-dev, libelf-devel or elfutils-libelf-devel."
> > > > toolcheck-$(CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION) += stack_validation
> > > >
> > > > endif
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > >
> > >
> > > It is ugly.
> > >
> > > Do you need such detailed information like ORC metadata stuff here?
> > >
> > > This Makefile aims to error out, showing why the build failed.
> > > That's it.
> >
> > Yeah, it is kind of ugly.  But the "showing why the build failed" part
> > is important.  I was trying to give the user a clear error message,
> > similar to what we have today.
> >
> > Without context, the user won't know what objtool is, or why it needs to
> > be built.
> >
> > If we have just a single error message for all cases, it should at least
> > mention the config option.  Like
> >
> >    "Cannot build objtool for CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION."
> >
> > But then, most users will only have that enabled because of ORC.  So an
> > ORC-specific message would be more appropriate in most cases.
> >
> > So maybe it can just be something more vague:
> >
> > msg_stack_validation = "Cannot build objtool for CONFIG_UNWINDER_ORC and/or CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION.  " \
> >                        "Please install libelf-dev, libelf-devel or elfutils-libelf-devel."
> >
> > That would probably be good enough.  Then we could drop the ugly ifdef.
> 
> 
> Fair point, but I am confused by the current
> STACK_VALIDATION / UNWINDER_ORC logic.
> 
> In my understanding, objtool is
> an all-in-one object check/manipulation tool.
> 
> STACK_VALIDATION and UNWINDER_ORC
> is a selection of a sub-command, 'check' or 'orc generate'.
> 
> (Correct me if am wrong.)
> 
> 
> However, STACK_VALIDATION is still used to
> decide whether or not to compile the objtool.
> 
> 
> Adding a new symbol OBJTOOL would clarify the logic.
> 
> 
> 
> config OBJTOOL
>         bool
> 
> config STACK_VALIDATION
>         bool "Compile-time stack metadata validation"
>         depends on HAVE_STACK_VALIDATION
>         select OBJTOOL
>         ...
> 
> 
> config UNWINDER_ORC
>         bool "ORC unwinder"
>         depends on X86_64
>         select OBJTOOL
>         ...

While 'orc generate' and 'check' are indeed separate subcommands of
objtool, the functionality of 'orc generate' is actually a superset of
the functionality of 'check'.  In other words, ORC generation relies on
the stack validation feature, which is consistent with the current
config logic.

-- 
Josh

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