lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:20:56 +0200
From:   Rainer Fiebig <jrf@...lbox.org>
To:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     NeilBrown <neil@...wn.name>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        ksummit-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>, Chris Mason <clm@...com>,
        Mishi Choudhary <mishi@...ux.com>
Subject: Re: Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document

Am Montag, 22. Oktober 2018, 08:20:11 schrieb NeilBrown:
> On Sat, Oct 20 2018, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > As everyone knows by now, we added a new Code of Conduct to the kernel
> > tree a few weeks ago.
> 
> I wanted to stay detached from all this, but as remaining (publicly)
> silent might be seen (publicly) as acquiescing, I hereby declare that:
>    I reject, as illegitimate, this Code and the process by
>    which it is being "developed".
> 
> It is clear from the surrounding discussions that this is well outside our
> core competencies.  It will be flawed, it isn't what we need.
> 
> I call on any other community members who reject this process to say so,
> not to remain silent.
> #Iobject
> 
> We don't need a "Code of Conduct" nearly as much as we need "Leadership
> in conduct".  Without the leadership, any code looks like a joke.
> 
[...]
 
> I call on you, Greg:
>  - to abandon this divisive attempt to impose a "Code of Conduct"
>  - to revert 8a104f8b5867c68

Yes but this seems increasingly unlikely now. However, there may be an 
alternative.

Jugding by the release-message for 4.19, some people here are fans of 
Monty Python's. No wonder - as those guys are famous for being unrelenting 
supporters of Political Correctness.

So one would be on the safe side if one just supplemented "Our Pledge" 
with this:

	"Everybody has the right to be offended."

I think, John Cleese would also welcome this.[1]

What do you think?

Regards!


Rainer Fiebig



[1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3427218/Political-correctness-killing-comedy-says-John-Cleese-Monty-Python-star-believes-fear-offending-certain-groups-lead-1984-style-society-free-expression-not-allowed.html


-- 
The truth always turns out to be simpler than you thought.
Richard Feynman
Download attachment "signature.asc" of type "application/pgp-signature" (834 bytes)

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ