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Date:   Fri, 9 Nov 2018 14:37:58 -0800
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:     Daniel Colascione <dancol@...gle.com>
Cc:     Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        John Reck <jreck@...gle.com>,
        John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
        Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Bruce Fields <bfields@...ldses.org>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@...nel.org>,
        Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@...cle.com>, Lei.Yang@...driver.com,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, marcandre.lureau@...hat.com,
        Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@...cle.com>,
        Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>,
        Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, valdis.kletnieks@...edu,
        Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 resend 1/2] mm: Add an F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE seal to memfd



> On Nov 9, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Daniel Colascione <dancol@...gle.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> +linux-api for API addition
>> +hughd as FYI since this is somewhat related to mm/shmem
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:46 PM Joel Fernandes (Google)
>> <joel@...lfernandes.org> wrote:
>>> Android uses ashmem for sharing memory regions. We are looking forward
>>> to migrating all usecases of ashmem to memfd so that we can possibly
>>> remove the ashmem driver in the future from staging while also
>>> benefiting from using memfd and contributing to it. Note staging drivers
>>> are also not ABI and generally can be removed at anytime.
>>> 
>>> One of the main usecases Android has is the ability to create a region
>>> and mmap it as writeable, then add protection against making any
>>> "future" writes while keeping the existing already mmap'ed
>>> writeable-region active.  This allows us to implement a usecase where
>>> receivers of the shared memory buffer can get a read-only view, while
>>> the sender continues to write to the buffer.
>>> See CursorWindow documentation in Android for more details:
>>> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/database/CursorWindow
>>> 
>>> This usecase cannot be implemented with the existing F_SEAL_WRITE seal.
>>> To support the usecase, this patch adds a new F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE seal
>>> which prevents any future mmap and write syscalls from succeeding while
>>> keeping the existing mmap active.
>> 
>> Please CC linux-api@ on patches like this. If you had done that, I
>> might have criticized your v1 patch instead of your v3 patch...
>> 
>>> The following program shows the seal
>>> working in action:
>> [...]
>>> Cc: jreck@...gle.com
>>> Cc: john.stultz@...aro.org
>>> Cc: tkjos@...gle.com
>>> Cc: gregkh@...uxfoundation.org
>>> Cc: hch@...radead.org
>>> Reviewed-by: John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@...lfernandes.org>
>>> ---
>> [...]
>>> diff --git a/mm/memfd.c b/mm/memfd.c
>>> index 2bb5e257080e..5ba9804e9515 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memfd.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memfd.c
>> [...]
>>> @@ -219,6 +220,25 @@ static int memfd_add_seals(struct file *file, unsigned int seals)
>>>                }
>>>        }
>>> 
>>> +       if ((seals & F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE) &&
>>> +           !(*file_seals & F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE)) {
>>> +               /*
>>> +                * The FUTURE_WRITE seal also prevents growing and shrinking
>>> +                * so we need them to be already set, or requested now.
>>> +                */
>>> +               int test_seals = (seals | *file_seals) &
>>> +                                (F_SEAL_GROW | F_SEAL_SHRINK);
>>> +
>>> +               if (test_seals != (F_SEAL_GROW | F_SEAL_SHRINK)) {
>>> +                       error = -EINVAL;
>>> +                       goto unlock;
>>> +               }
>>> +
>>> +               spin_lock(&file->f_lock);
>>> +               file->f_mode &= ~(FMODE_WRITE | FMODE_PWRITE);
>>> +               spin_unlock(&file->f_lock);
>>> +       }
>> 
>> So you're fiddling around with the file, but not the inode? How are
>> you preventing code like the following from re-opening the file as
>> writable?
> 
> Good catch. That's fixable too though, isn't it, just by fiddling with
> the inode, right?

True.

> 
> Another, more general fix might be to prevent /proc/pid/fd/N opens
> from "upgrading" access modes. But that'd be a bigger ABI break.

I think we should fix that, too.  I consider it a bug fix, not an ABI break, personally.

> 
>> That aside: I wonder whether a better API would be something that
>> allows you to create a new readonly file descriptor, instead of
>> fiddling with the writability of an existing fd.
> 
> That doesn't work, unfortunately. The ashmem API we're replacing with
> memfd requires file descriptor continuity. I also looked into opening
> a new FD and dup2(2)ing atop the old one, but this approach doesn't
> work in the case that the old FD has already leaked to some other
> context (e.g., another dup, SCM_RIGHTS). See
> https://developer.android.com/ndk/reference/group/memory. We can't
> break ASharedMemory_setProt.


Hmm.  If we fix the general reopen bug, a way to drop write access from an existing struct file would do what Android needs, right?  I don’t know if there are general VFS issues with that.

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