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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jJMYW2wwKCVzHkiSbAkOCdtRboax5oxw6LgdCH7CicTSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:02:35 -0600
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Sven Joachim <svenjoac@....de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: remove gcc-x86_*-has-stack-protector.sh checks

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Masahiro Yamada
<yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 5:29 PM Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Masahiro Yamada
>> <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com> wrote:
>> > gcc-x86_64-has-stack-protector.sh was introduced by commit 4f7fd4d7a791
>> > ("[PATCH] Add the -fstack-protector option to the CFLAGS") in 2006
>> > to work around buggy compilers.
>> >
>> > gcc-x86_32-has-stack-protector.sh was introduced by commit 60a5317ff0f4
>> > ("x86: implement x86_32 stack protector"), which did not clearly state
>> > whether compilers were still producing broken code at that time.
>> >
>> > Now, the minimum reuquired GCC version is 4.6, which was released in
>> > 2011. Probably, we can dump these old compiler checks.
>>
>> NAK. We need to keep this because we've seen recent regressions with
>> stack protection (e.g. gcc briefly used global instead of tls for the
>> canary, which silently broke the use of stack protectors). Since the
>> gcc/kernel "API" for the canary is so fragile we need to keep these
>> tests to make sure things end up where they're expected.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> I did not know this is still fragile even after ten years time.
>
> One more curious thing is, x86 is the only arch ever
> that has had this kind of script check.

Presently, yes -- x86 is the only arch with non-global canaries,
though something may be coming soon for arm64. However, that case may
be more detectable with cc-option. The trouble with gcc was that the
default switched at one point. :(


-- 
Kees Cook

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