linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH V3] KSM: allow dedup all tasks memory

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:57:03 +0100
From:   Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
To:     timofey.titovets@...esis.ru
Cc:     kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, nefelim4ag@...il.com,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] KSM: allow dedup all tasks memory

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:40 PM Timofey Titovets
<timofey.titovets@...esis.ru> wrote:
> ksm by default working only on memory that added by
> madvise().
>
> And only way get that work on other applications:
>   * Use LD_PRELOAD and libraries
>   * Patch kernel
>
> Lets use kernel task list and add logic to import VMAs from tasks.
>
> That behaviour controlled by new attributes:
>   * mode:
>     I try mimic hugepages attribute, so mode have two states:
>       * madvise      - old default behaviour
>       * always [new] - allow ksm to get tasks vma and
>                        try working on that.

Please don't. And if you really have to for some reason, put some big
warnings on this, advising people that it's a security risk.

KSM is one of the favorite punching bags of side-channel and hardware
security researchers:

As a gigantic, problematic side channel:
http://staff.aist.go.jp/k.suzaki/EuroSec2011-suzaki.pdf
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/woot15/woot15-paper-barresi.pdf
https://access.redhat.com/blogs/766093/posts/1976303
https://gruss.cc/files/dedup.pdf

In particular https://gruss.cc/files/dedup.pdf ("Practical Memory
Deduplication Attacks in Sandboxed JavaScript") shows that KSM makes
it possible to use malicious JavaScript to determine whether a given
page of memory exists elsewhere on your system.

And also as a way to target rowhammer-based faults:
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity16/sec16_paper_razavi.pdf
https://thisissecurity.stormshield.com/2017/10/19/attacking-co-hosted-vm-hacker-hammer-two-memory-modules/