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Date:   Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:03:49 +0530
From:   Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@....com>
To:     christoffer.dall@....com
Cc:     Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, drjones@...hat.com,
        marc.zyngier@....com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kristina.martsenko@....com,
        kvmarm@...ts.cs.columbia.edu, ramana.radhakrishnan@....com,
        Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>,
        LAK <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/7] arm64/kvm: context-switch ptrauth registers

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:16 PM Christoffer Dall
<christoffer.dall@....com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:32:12PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:17:55PM +0530, Amit Daniel Kachhap wrote:
> > > > From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
> > > >
> > > > When pointer authentication is supported, a guest may wish to use it.
> > > > This patch adds the necessary KVM infrastructure for this to work.
> > > >
> > > > When we schedule a vcpu, we enable guest usage of pointer
> > > > authentication instructions and accesses to the keys. After these are
> > > > enabled, we allow context-switching the keys.
> > > >
> > > > Pointer authentication consists of address authentication and generic
> > > > authentication, and CPUs in a system might have varied support for
> > > > either. Where support for either feature is not uniform, it is hidden
> > > > from guests via ID register emulation, as a result of the cpufeature
> > > > framework in the host.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, address authentication and generic authentication cannot
> > > > be trapped separately, as the architecture provides a single EL2 trap
> > > > covering both. If we wish to expose one without the other, we cannot
> > > > prevent a (badly-written) guest from intermittently using a feature
> > > > which is not uniformly supported (when scheduled on a physical CPU which
> > > > supports the relevant feature). When the guest is scheduled on a
> > > > physical CPU lacking the feature, these attempts will result in an UNDEF
> > > > being taken by the guest.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@....com>
> > > > Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@....com>
> > > > Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@....com>
> > > > Cc: kvmarm@...ts.cs.columbia.edu
> > [...]
> > > Two questions:
> > >
> > >  - Can we limit all ptrauth functionality to VHE systems so that we
> > >    don't need to touch the non-VHE path and so that we don't need any of
> > >    the __hyp_text stuff?
> >
> > I would say yes. ARMv8.3 implies v8.1, so can enable ptrauth only when
> > VHE is built into the kernel and present in the CPU implementation.
> >
>
> Sounds good.
>
> > >  - Can we move all the save/restore logic to vcpu load/put as long as
> > >    the host kernel itself isn't using ptrauth, and if the host kernel at
> > >    some point begins to use ptrauth, can we have a hook to save/restore
> > >    at that time (similar to what we do for FPSIMD) to avoid this
> > >    overhead on every switch?
> >
> > We will probably enable ptrauth for the kernel as well fairly soon, so I
> > don't think we should base the KVM assumption on the no ptrauth in
> > kernel use-case.
> >
>
> I assume in this case ptrauth will be used for all of the kernel,
> including most of the KVM code?
>
> In that case, I wonder if we always need to context-switch ptrauth
> configruation state or if we can be lazy until the guest actually uses
> the feature?

Sorry for the delayed reply. Lazy switching is possible and was
present in earlier Mark's Rutland v2 version.
However  removed it from v3 version as a mandatory user option to
enable ptrauth is added and to make it look
simpler. But yes both can exist together but with 1 trap cost if guest
always uses ptrauth.

Thanks,
Amit
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>     Christoffer

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