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Date:   Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:40:40 +0100
From:   Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@...hat.com>
Cc:     linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org,
        Keith Busch <keith.busch@...el.com>,
        Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>, axboe@...nel.dk,
        Martin Wilck <mwilck@...e.com>, lijie <lijie34@...wei.com>,
        xose.vazquez@...il.com, chengjike.cheng@...wei.com,
        shenhong09@...wei.com, dm-devel@...hat.com,
        wangzhoumengjian@...wei.com, christophe.varoqui@...nsvc.com,
        bmarzins@...hat.com, sschremm@...app.com,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme: allow ANA support to be independent of native
 multipathing

On 11/16/18 10:14 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:46:05PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>> Whether or not ANA is present is a choice of the target implementation;
>> the host (and whether it supports multipathing) has _zero_ influence on
>> this.  If the target declares a path as 'inaccessible' the path _is_
>> inaccessible to the host.  As such, ANA support should be functional
>> even if native multipathing is not.
>>
>> Introduce ability to always re-read ANA log page as required due to ANA
>> error and make current ANA state available via sysfs -- even if native
>> multipathing is disabled on the host (e.g. nvme_core.multipath=N).
> 
> The first part I could see, but I still want to make it conditional
> in some way as nvme is going into deeply embedded setups, and I don't
> want to carry the weight of the ANA code around for everyone.
> 
Can you clarify this a bit?
We _do_ have the NVME multipath config option to deconfigure the whole 
thing during compile time; that isn't influenced with this patch.
So are you worried about the size of the ANA implementation itself?
Or are you worried about the size of the ANA structures?

> The second I fundamentally disagree with.  And even if you found agreement
> it would have to be in a separate patch as it is a separate feature.
> 
Why? Where's the problem with re-reading the ANA log pages if we get an 
event indicating that we should?

Cheers,

Hannes
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