linux-kernel - Re: [Patch v5 11/16] x86/speculation: Add Spectre v2 app to app protection modes

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Message-ID: <591a5109-ffef-b17f-38e3-12082d229451@intel.com>
Date:   Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:39:19 -0800
From:   Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw@...zon.co.uk>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Casey Schaufler <casey.schaufler@...el.com>,
        Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@...el.com>,
        Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jon Masters <jcm@...hat.com>,
        Waiman Long <longman9394@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch v5 11/16] x86/speculation: Add Spectre v2 app to app
 protection modes

On 11/19/18 3:01 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> Yes, it wouldn't make sense for having just one of those if a task
>> is worried about attack from user space.
>>
>> I'll document it.
> What? IBPB makes tons of sense even without STIBP.

I'm lost. :)

I don't think anyone is talking about using STIBP *everywhere* that IBPB
is in-use.

We're just guessing that, if anybody is paranoid enough to ask for IBPB,
*and* they have SMT, they almost certainly want STIBP too.