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Message-ID: <20181120101133.GA7319@linux.intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:11:33 +0200
From:   Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Cc:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Christopherson, Sean J" <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>,
        Jethro Beekman <jethro@...tanix.com>,
        Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Rich Felker <dalias@...c.org>, nhorman@...hat.com,
        npmccallum@...hat.com, "Ayoun, Serge" <serge.ayoun@...el.com>,
        shay.katz-zamir@...el.com, linux-sgx@...r.kernel.org,
        Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Subject: Re: RFC: userspace exception fixups

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 09:00:08AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:02 AM Jarkko Sakkinen
> <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 07:29:36AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > 1. The kernel needs some way to know *when* to apply this fixup.
> > > Decoding the instruction stream and doing it to all exceptions that
> > > hit an ENCLU instruction seems like a poor design.
> >
> > I'm not sure why you would ever need to do any type of fixup as the idea
> > is to just return to AEP i.e. from chosen exceptions (EPCM, #UD) the AEP
> > would work the same way as for exceptions that the kernel can deal with
> > except filling the exception information to registers.
> 
> Sure, but how does the kernel know when to do that and when to send a
> signal?  I don't really like decoding the instruction stream to figure
> it out.

Hmm... why you have to decode instruction stream to find that out? Would
just depend on exception type (#GP with EPCM, #UD). Or are you saying
that kernel should need to SIGSEGV if there is in fact ENCLU so that
there is no infinite trap loop? Sorry, I'm a bit lost here that where
does this decoding requirement comes from in the first place. I
understand how it is used in Sean's proposal...

Anyway, this option can be probably discarded without further
consideration because apparently single stepping can cause #DB SS fault
if AEP handler is anything else than a single instruction.

For me it seems that by ruling out options, vDSO option is what is
left. I don't like it but at least it works...

/Jarkko

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