linux-kernel - Re: Official Linux system wrapper library?

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Message-ID: <98843299-f064-8582-76d8-46217de2626f@davidnewall.com>
Date:   Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:11:38 +1030
From:   David Newall <glibc@...idnewall.com>
To:     Szabolcs Nagy <Szabolcs.Nagy@....com>,
        Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>,
        Daniel Colascione <dancol@...gle.com>
Cc:     nd <nd@....com>,
        "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Joel Fernandes <joelaf@...gle.com>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Carlos O'Donell <carlos@...hat.com>,
        "libc-alpha@...rceware.org" <libc-alpha@...rceware.org>
Subject: Re: Official Linux system wrapper library?

On 24/11/18 1:53 am, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> On 23/11/18 14:11, David Newall wrote:
>> On 24/11/18 12:04 am, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> But socketcall does not exist on all architectures.  Neither does
>>> getpid, it's called getxpid on some architectures.
>>> ...
>>> I think it would be a poor approach to expose application developers to
>>> these portability issues.  We need to abstract over these differences at
>>> a certain layer, and applications are too late.
>> Interesting.  I think the opposite.  I think exposing the OS's interfaces is exactly what a c-library should do.  It might also provide
>> alternative interfaces that work consistently across different platforms, but in addition to, not instead of the OS interface.
> you don't understand the point of the c language if you think so.

I understand the point of C, thank you very much, and we're talking 
about the C library, not the language.  I don't understand the point of 
your rudeness.