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Date:   Tue, 27 Nov 2018 19:05:11 +0000
From:   Roman Kagan <rkagan@...tuozzo.com>
To:     Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
CC:     Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>,
        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@...hat.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@...rosoft.com>,
        Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@...rosoft.com>,
        Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@...rosoft.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "Michael Kelley (EOSG)" <Michael.H.Kelley@...rosoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] x86/kvm/hyper-v: direct mode for synthetic timers

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 02:54:21PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 27/11/18 09:37, Roman Kagan wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 05:44:24PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> On 26/11/18 16:47, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> >>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> >>> index 5cd5647120f2..b21b5ceb8d26 100644
> >>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> >>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> >>> @@ -2997,6 +2997,7 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)
> >>>  	case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_TLBFLUSH:
> >>>  	case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_SEND_IPI:
> >>>  	case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS:
> >>> +	case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_STIMER_DIRECT:
> >>>  	case KVM_CAP_PCI_SEGMENT:
> >>>  	case KVM_CAP_DEBUGREGS:
> >>>  	case KVM_CAP_X86_ROBUST_SINGLESTEP:
> >>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> >>> index 2b7a652c9fa4..b8da14cee8e5 100644
> >>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> >>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> >>> @@ -975,6 +975,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {
> >>>  #define KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS 163
> >>>  #define KVM_CAP_EXCEPTION_PAYLOAD 164
> >>>  #define KVM_CAP_ARM_VM_IPA_SIZE 165
> >>> +#define KVM_CAP_HYPERV_STIMER_DIRECT 166
> >>
> >> I wonder if all these capabilities shouldn't be replaced by a single
> >> KVM_GET_HYPERV_SUPPORTED_CPUID ioctl, or something like that.
> > 
> > Hmm, why?  Are we running short of cap numbers?
> > 
> > Capabilities are a well-established and unambiguous negotiation
> > mechanism, why invent another one?  Besides, not all features map
> > conveniently onto cpuid bits, e.g. currently we have two versions of
> > SynIC support, which differ in the way the userspace deals with it, but
> > not in the cpuid bits we expose in the guest.  IMO such an ioctl would
> > bring more complexity rather than less.
> 
> Yes, in that case (for bugfixes basically) you'd have to use
> capabilities.  But if the feature is completely hidden to userspace
> except for the CPUID bit, it seems like a ioctl would be more consistent
> with the rest of the KVM API.

So there will be some features that are more equal than others?

I think that it's the current scheme which is more consistent: there are
features that are implemented in KVM, and there are caps for negotiating
them with userspace, and then -- separately -- there's a mix of bits to
show to the guest in response to CPUID, which only the userspace has to
bother with.

Thanks,
Roman.

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