lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <5e1e9c08-dff5-956d-4c2b-8ee090c387c3@linux.intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:13:01 +0300
From:   Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Cc:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@...ulin.net>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" 
        <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
        "linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] Documentation/admin-guide: introduce
 perf-security.rst file

On 27.11.2018 21:11, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:15:37 +0300
> Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
>> +To perform security checks, the Linux implementation splits processes into two
>> +categories [6]_ : a) privileged processes (whose effective user ID is 0, referred
>> +to as superuser or root), and b) unprivileged processes (whose effective UID is
>> +nonzero). Privileged processes bypass all kernel security permission checks so
>> +perf_events performance monitoring is fully available to privileged processes
>> +without access, scope and resource restrictions.
>> +
>> +Unprivileged processes are subject to a full security permission check based on
>> +the process's credentials [5]_ (usually: effective UID, effective GID, and
>> +supplementary group list).
>> +
>> +Linux divides the privileges traditionally associated with superuser into
>> +distinct units, known as capabilities [6]_ , which can be independently enabled
>> +and disabled on per-thread basis for processes and files of unprivileged users.
>> +
>> +Unprivileged processes with enabled CAP_SYS_ADMIN capability are treated as
>> +privileged processes with respect to perf_events performance monitoring and
>> +bypass *scope* permissions checks in the kernel.
>> +
>> +Unprivileged processes using perf_events system call API is also subject for
>> +PTRACE_MODE_READ_REALCREDS ptrace access mode check [7]_ , whose outcome
>> +determines whether monitoring is permitted. So unprivileged processes provided
>> +with CAP_SYS_PTRACE capability are effectively permitted to pass the check.
> 
> It's good to have more information here.  I could certainly quibble
> further with things - a process with CAP_SYS_ADMIN is not "unprivileged"!
> - but I don't want to stand in the way of this any further.  I *would*
> still like to see an ack from the perf world, though.

Thanks for meaningful comments! Looking forward to ack from perf world.

> 
> With regard to Kees's comment on merging the two patches; I would probably
> add the new document to index.rst in the same patch, but it doesn't matter
> that much.  Not worth redoing the patch just for that.

Thanks,
Alexey

> 
> jon
> 

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ