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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:41:33 -0800
From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>
Cc: Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@...il.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, linux@...linux.org.uk,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Stefan Agner <stefan@...er.ch>,
Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: Wrap '--pic-veneer' with ld-option
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:40 AM Ard Biesheuvel
<ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 19:36, Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 09:09:56AM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > (+ Arnd)
> > >
> > > On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 09:06, Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@...il.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 08:37:05AM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 02:42, Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This flag is not supported by lld:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ld.lld: error: unknown argument: --pic-veneer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@...il.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Nate,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this mean ld.lld is guaranteed to produce position independent
> > > > > veneers if you build kernels that are bigger than the typical range of
> > > > > a relative branch?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ard,
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, I'm not quite sure. I saw your commit that introduced this
> > > > flag and I wasn't quite sure what to make of it for lld. What
> > > > configuration would I use to verify and what would I check for?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try building allyesconfig, and check the resulting binary for veneers
> > > (which have 'veneer' in the symbol name, at least when ld.bfd emits
> > > them). These veneers should not take the [virtual] address of the
> > > branch target directly, but take a PC relative offset (as in the
> > > example in the commit log of that patch you are referring to)
> > >
> >
> > Alright, compiling with allyesconfig is a little rough at the moment
> > (bug reports I will file in due time) but I was able to do it. Here's
> > the disassembly specifically for the functions you had in your commit,
> > my assembly knowledge is pretty much non-existent unfortunately so I am
> > not sure what to make of it (it doesn't look like there is a virtual
> > address for pc in that mix?). I am happy to provide any more information
> > that is needed.
> >
> > c03030cc <__enable_mmu>:
> > c03030cc: e3c00002 bic r0, r0, #2
> > c03030d0: e3c00b02 bic r0, r0, #2048 ; 0x800
> > c03030d4: e3c00a01 bic r0, r0, #4096 ; 0x1000
> > c03030d8: e3a05051 mov r5, #81 ; 0x51
> > c03030dc: ee035f10 mcr 15, 0, r5, cr3, cr0, {0}
> > c03030e0: ee024f10 mcr 15, 0, r4, cr2, cr0, {0}
> > c03030e4: eafff3c5 b c0300000 <__turn_mmu_on>
> > c03030e8: e320f000 nop {0}
> > c03030ec: e320f000 nop {0}
> > c03030f0: e320f000 nop {0}
> > c03030f4: e320f000 nop {0}
> > c03030f8: e320f000 nop {0}
> > c03030fc: e320f000 nop {0}
> >
> > c0300000 <__turn_mmu_on>:
> > c0300000: e1a00000 nop ; (mov r0, r0)
> > c0300004: ee070f95 mcr 15, 0, r0, cr7, cr5, {4}
> > c0300008: ee010f10 mcr 15, 0, r0, cr1, cr0, {0}
> > c030000c: ee103f10 mrc 15, 0, r3, cr0, cr0, {0}
> > c0300010: ee070f95 mcr 15, 0, r0, cr7, cr5, {4}
> > c0300014: e1a03003 mov r3, r3
> > c0300018: e1a0300d mov r3, sp
> > c030001c: e1a0f003 mov pc, r3
> >
>
> Thanks Nate.
>
> So these functions no longer appear to reside far away from each
> other, so there no veneer has been emitted.
>
> What we're looking for are veneers, i.e., snippets inserted by the
> linker that serve as a trampoline so a branch target that is far away
> can be reached.
>
> If no symbols exist with 'veneer' in their name *, it might make sense
> to rebuild the kernel as Thumb2, which has a branching range of only 8
> MB (as opposed to 16 MB for ARM mode)
Heh, Arnd and I were just talking about this yesterday. Is there a
config that sets Thumb2 mode for the kernel?
>
> * I have no idea whether lld names its veneers like this, or even at all
--
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers
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