linux-kernel - Re: siginfo pid not populated from ptrace?

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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jLUXCP1UWpiFRJ=jM8jwrnS1v2By8c4ywRPhAdOPAUMtA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 6 Dec 2018 13:34:21 -0800
From:   Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:     "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:     Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: siginfo pid not populated from ptrace?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:11 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:
>
> Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 10:48:39AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:40 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > We have in the past had ptrace users that weren't just about debugging
> >> > so I don't know that it is fair to just dismiss it as debugging
> >> > infrastructure.
> >>
> >> Absolutely.
> >>
> >> Some uses are more than just debug. People occasionally use ptrace
> >> because it's the only way to do what they want, so you'll find people
> >> who do it for sandboxing, for example. It's not necessarily designed
> >> for that, or particularly fast or well-suited for it, but I've
> >> definitely seen it used that way.
> >>
> >> So I don't think the behavioral test breakage like this is necessarily
> >> a huge deal, and until some "real use" actually shows that it cares it
> >> might be something we dismiss as "just test", but it very much has the
> >> potential to hit real uses.
> >>
> >> The fact that a behavioral test broke is definitely interesting.
> >>
> >> And maybe some of the siginfo allocations could depend on whether the
> >> signal is actually ever caught or not.
> >>
> >> For example, a terminal signal (or one that is ignored) might not need
> >> siginfo. But if the process is ptraced, maybe that terminal signal
> >> isn't actually terminal? So we might have situations where we want to
> >> simply check "is the signal target being ptraced"..
> >
> > Yes, something like this, I suppose? It works for me.
>
> The challenge is that we could be delivering this to a zombie signal
> group leader.  At which point we won't deliver it to the target task.
>
> Sigh it is probably time that I dig in and figure out how to avoid that
> case which we need to fix anyway because we can get the permission
> checks wrong for multi-threaded processes that call setuid and friends.
>
> Once that is sorted your small change will at least be safe.
>
> Eric
>
> > From 3bcaadd56ebb532ab4d481556fcc0826d65efc43 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>
> > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 12:15:22 -0700
> > Subject: [PATCH] signal: allocate siginfo when a traced task gets SIGSTOP
> >
> > Tracers can view SIGSTOP:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87zhtthkuy.fsf@xmission.com/T/#u
> >
> > so let's allocate a siginfo for SIGSTOP when a task is traced.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>
> > ---
> >  kernel/signal.c | 9 ++++++---
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/signal.c b/kernel/signal.c
> > index 9a32bc2088c9..ab4ba00119f4 100644
> > --- a/kernel/signal.c
> > +++ b/kernel/signal.c
> > @@ -1056,11 +1056,14 @@ static int __send_signal(int sig, struct kernel_siginfo *info, struct task_struc
> >               goto ret;
> >
> >       result = TRACE_SIGNAL_DELIVERED;
> > +
> >       /*
> > -      * Skip useless siginfo allocation for SIGKILL SIGSTOP,
> > -      * and kernel threads.
> > +      * Skip useless siginfo allocation for SIGKILL and kernel threads.
> > +      * SIGSTOP is visible to tracers, so only skip allocation when the task
> > +      * is not traced.
> >        */
> > -     if (sig_kernel_only(sig) || (t->flags & PF_KTHREAD))
> > +     if ((sig == SIGKILL) || (!task_is_traced(t) && sig == SIGSTOP) ||
> > +         (t->flags & PF_KTHREAD))
> >               goto out_set;
> >
> >       /*

What should we do for v4.20? I need to have the selftests actually passing. :)

-- 
Kees Cook