linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Heterogeneous Memory System (HMS) and hbind()

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Message-ID: <5e6c87d5-e4ef-12e7-32bf-c163f7ff58d7@intel.com>
Date:   Thu, 6 Dec 2018 15:38:41 -0800
From:   Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
To:     Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>,
        Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>
Cc:     linux-mm@...ck.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@...ux.intel.com>,
        Keith Busch <keith.busch@...el.com>,
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        Haggai Eran <haggaie@...lanox.com>,
        Balbir Singh <bsingharora@...il.com>,
        "Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehling@....com>,
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        Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
        Ben Woodard <woodard@...hat.com>, linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Heterogeneous Memory System (HMS) and hbind()

On 12/6/18 3:28 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> I didn't think this was meant to describe actual real world performance
> between all of the links. If that's the case all of this seems like a
> pipe dream to me.

The HMAT discussions (that I was a part of at least) settled on just
trying to describe what we called "sticker speed".  Nobody had an
expectation that you *really* had to measure everything.

The best we can do for any of these approaches is approximate things.

> You're not *really* going to know bandwidth or latency for any of this
> unless you actually measure it on the system in question.

Yeah, agreed.