linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 02/14] mm/hms: heterogenenous memory system (HMS) documentation

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Message-ID: <CAPcyv4g2bb=GPErigvjWDdVn2vfLDawnr7-Q49TaJsD-6c-zMw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:08:49 -0800
From:   Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:     Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>
Cc:     Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Haggai Eran <haggaie@...lanox.com>, balbirs@....ibm.com,
        "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        "Kuehling, Felix" <felix.kuehling@....com>, Philip.Yang@....com,
        "Koenig, Christian" <christian.koenig@....com>,
        "Blinzer, Paul" <Paul.Blinzer@....com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>, rcampbell@...dia.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/14] mm/hms: heterogenenous memory system (HMS) documentation

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:27 PM Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 04:23:42PM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2018-12-05 4:20 p.m., Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > > And my proposal is under /sys/bus and have symlink to all existing
> > > device it agregate in there.
> >
> > That's so not the point. Use the existing buses don't invent some
> > virtual tree. I don't know how many times I have to say this or in how
> > many ways. I'm not responding anymore.
>
> And how do i express interaction with different buses because i just
> do not see how to do that in the existing scheme. It would be like
> teaching to each bus about all the other bus versus having each bus
> register itself under a common framework and have all the interaction
> between bus mediated through that common framework avoiding code
> duplication accross buses.
>
> >
> > > So you agree with my proposal ? A sysfs directory in which all the
> > > bus and how they are connected to each other and what is connected
> > > to each of them (device, CPU, memory).
> >
> > I'm fine with the motivation. What I'm arguing against is the
> > implementation and the fact you have to create a whole grand new
> > userspace API and hierarchy to accomplish it.

Right, GPUs show up in /sys today. Don't register a whole new
hierarchy as an alias to what already exists, add a new attribute
scheme to the existing hierarchy. This is what the HMAT enabling is
doing, this is what p2pdma is doing.