linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] USB: DTS: allow suggesting busnumber for platform USB bus via DTS alias

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Message-ID: <20181211224242.GA21950@bogus>
Date:   Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:42:42 -0600
From:   Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To:     "David R. Piegdon" <lkml@...q.org>
Cc:     "Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@...eddedor.com>,
        Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        Chunfeng Yun <chunfeng.yun@...iatek.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Johan Hovold <johan@...nel.org>, Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@...glemail.com>,
        Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@...ux.intel.com>,
        Roger Quadros <rogerq@...com>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-usb@...r.kernel.org, systemd-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] USB: DTS: allow suggesting busnumber for
 platform USB bus via DTS alias

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 04:57:05PM +0000, David R. Piegdon wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> on our embedded systems we rely on systemd's persistent netdev names.
> Those currently do not work for USB netdevs that are connected to a
> platform USB bus.
> 
> In https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/7273 a systemd patch was
> suggested that would allow exactly this, but it was (rightfully) said
> that numbering of theses busses is not guaranteed. Internally we used
> the patch for a while now, but exactly that has happened with one of our
> platforms across different kernel revisions.
> 
> The following kernel patches allow suggesting a USB busnumber for each
> USB platform bus via a DTS alias, as can be done similarly for many
> other devices.
> In combination with above systemd patch, these changes allow use of
> persistent netdev names also on platform USB busses.

I don't think this is doing what was suggested in the link above. Though 
I'm not familiar with what ACPI provides. Userspace would still be 
relying on the Linux enumeration numbering. How would userspace tell if 
that numbering is persistent or not other than looking at the DT itself 
(which isn't a good solution either)?

I don't understand though why userspace needs anything more that the mac 
address of a net device to provide a persistent name.

Rob