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Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iDdOGh6wCug9sZsrPdby1Sv1jG5aRUA5PjL0dDW7eNNA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 20 Dec 2018 08:57:22 -0800
From:   Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:     Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>
Cc:     John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        John Hubbard <john.hubbard@...il.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, tom@...pey.com,
        Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, benve@...co.com,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        "Dalessandro, Dennis" <dennis.dalessandro@...el.com>,
        Doug Ledford <dledford@...hat.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Mike Marciniszyn <mike.marciniszyn@...el.com>,
        rcampbell@...dia.com,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:50 AM Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 02:54:49AM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> > On 12/19/18 3:08 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Tue 18-12-18 21:07:24, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 03:29:34PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> > >>> OK, so let's take another look at Jerome's _mapcount idea all by itself (using
> > >>> *only* the tracking pinned pages aspect), given that it is the lightest weight
> > >>> solution for that.
> > >>>
> > >>> So as I understand it, this would use page->_mapcount to store both the real
> > >>> mapcount, and the dma pinned count (simply added together), but only do so for
> > >>> file-backed (non-anonymous) pages:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> __get_user_pages()
> > >>> {
> > >>>   ...
> > >>>   get_page(page);
> > >>>
> > >>>   if (!PageAnon)
> > >>>           atomic_inc(page->_mapcount);
> > >>>   ...
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>> put_user_page(struct page *page)
> > >>> {
> > >>>   ...
> > >>>   if (!PageAnon)
> > >>>           atomic_dec(&page->_mapcount);
> > >>>
> > >>>   put_page(page);
> > >>>   ...
> > >>> }
> > >>>
> > >>> ...and then in the various consumers of the DMA pinned count, we use page_mapped(page)
> > >>> to see if any mapcount remains, and if so, we treat it as DMA pinned. Is that what you
> > >>> had in mind?
> > >>
> > >> Mostly, with the extra two observations:
> > >>     [1] We only need to know the pin count when a write back kicks in
> > >>     [2] We need to protect GUP code with wait_for_write_back() in case
> > >>         GUP is racing with a write back that might not the see the
> > >>         elevated mapcount in time.
> > >>
> > >> So for [2]
> > >>
> > >> __get_user_pages()
> > >> {
> > >>     get_page(page);
> > >>
> > >>     if (!PageAnon) {
> > >>         atomic_inc(page->_mapcount);
> > >> +       if (PageWriteback(page)) {
> > >> +           // Assume we are racing and curent write back will not see
> > >> +           // the elevated mapcount so wait for current write back and
> > >> +           // force page fault
> > >> +           wait_on_page_writeback(page);
> > >> +           // force slow path that will fault again
> > >> +       }
> > >>     }
> > >> }
> > >
> > > This is not needed AFAICT. __get_user_pages() gets page reference (and it
> > > should also increment page->_mapcount) under PTE lock. So at that point we
> > > are sure we have writeable PTE nobody can change. So page_mkclean() has to
> > > block on PTE lock to make PTE read-only and only after going through all
> > > PTEs like this, it can check page->_mapcount. So the PTE lock provides
> > > enough synchronization.
> > >
> > >> For [1] only needing pin count during write back turns page_mkclean into
> > >> the perfect spot to check for that so:
> > >>
> > >> int page_mkclean(struct page *page)
> > >> {
> > >>     int cleaned = 0;
> > >> +   int real_mapcount = 0;
> > >>     struct address_space *mapping;
> > >>     struct rmap_walk_control rwc = {
> > >>         .arg = (void *)&cleaned,
> > >>         .rmap_one = page_mkclean_one,
> > >>         .invalid_vma = invalid_mkclean_vma,
> > >> +       .mapcount = &real_mapcount,
> > >>     };
> > >>
> > >>     BUG_ON(!PageLocked(page));
> > >>
> > >>     if (!page_mapped(page))
> > >>         return 0;
> > >>
> > >>     mapping = page_mapping(page);
> > >>     if (!mapping)
> > >>         return 0;
> > >>
> > >>     // rmap_walk need to change to count mapping and return value
> > >>     // in .mapcount easy one
> > >>     rmap_walk(page, &rwc);
> > >>
> > >>     // Big fat comment to explain what is going on
> > >> +   if ((page_mapcount(page) - real_mapcount) > 0) {
> > >> +       SetPageDMAPined(page);
> > >> +   } else {
> > >> +       ClearPageDMAPined(page);
> > >> +   }
> > >
> > > This is the detail I'm not sure about: Why cannot rmap_walk_file() race
> > > with e.g. zap_pte_range() which decrements page->_mapcount and thus the
> > > check we do in page_mkclean() is wrong?
> >
> > Right. This looks like a dead end, after all. We can't lock a whole chunk
> > of "all these are mapped, hold still while we count you" pages. It's not
> > designed to allow that at all.
> >
> > IMHO, we are now back to something like dynamic_page, which provides an
> > independent dma pinned count.
>
> I will keep looking because allocating a structure for every GUP is
> insane to me they are user out there that are GUPin GigaBytes of data

This is not the common case.

> and it gonna waste tons of memory just to fix crappy hardware.

This is the common case.

Please refrain from the hyperbolic assessments.

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