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Date:   Fri, 28 Dec 2018 09:06:24 +0100
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:     Thomas Backlund <tmb@...eia.org>
Cc:     Sasha Levin <sashal@...nel.org>,
        Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, stable@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <dchinner@...hat.com>,
        "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@...cle.com>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.14 25/35] iomap: sub-block dio needs to zeroout
 beyond EOF

On Mon 2018-12-03 23:22:46, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> Den 2018-12-03 kl. 11:22, skrev Sasha Levin:
> 
> > 
> > This is a case where theory collides with the real world. Yes, our QA is
> > lacking, but we don't have the option of not doing the current process.
> > If we stop backporting until a future data where our QA problem is
> > solved we'll end up with what we had before: users stuck on ancient
> > kernels without a way to upgrade.
> > 
> 
> Sorry, but you seem to be living in a different "real world"...

I have to agree here :-(.

> People stay on "ancient kernels" that "just works" instead of updating
> to a newer one that "hopefully/maybe/... works"

Stable has a rules community agreed on, unfortunately stable team just
simply ignores those and decided to do "whatever they please".

Process went from "serious bugs that bother people only" to "hey, this
looks like a bugfix, lets put it into tree and see what it breaks"...

:-(.
								Pavel

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