linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] netfilter: account ebt_table

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Date:   Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:00:55 -0800
From:   Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     Florian Westphal <fw@...len.de>,
        Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>,
        Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@...ckhole.kfki.hu>,
        Roopa Prabhu <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>, netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org,
        coreteam@...filter.org, bridge@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        syzbot+7713f3aa67be76b1552c@...kaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netfilter: account ebt_table_info to kmemcg

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:45 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat 29-12-18 11:34:29, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 2:06 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat 29-12-18 10:52:15, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > > > Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Fri 28-12-18 17:55:24, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > > > The [ip,ip6,arp]_tables use x_tables_info internally and the underlying
> > > > > > memory is already accounted to kmemcg. Do the same for ebtables. The
> > > > > > syzbot, by using setsockopt(EBT_SO_SET_ENTRIES), was able to OOM the
> > > > > > whole system from a restricted memcg, a potential DoS.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the lifetime of these objects? Are they bound to any process?
> > > >
> > > > No, they are not.
> > > > They are free'd only when userspace requests it or the netns is
> > > > destroyed.
> > >
> > > Then this is problematic, because the oom killer is not able to
> > > guarantee the hard limit and so the excessive memory consumption cannot
> > > be really contained. As a result the memcg will be basically useless
> > > until somebody tears down the charged objects by other means. The memcg
> > > oom killer will surely kill all the existing tasks in the cgroup and
> > > this could somehow reduce the problem. Maybe this is sufficient for
> > > some usecases but that should be properly analyzed and described in the
> > > changelog.
> > >
> >
> > Can you explain why you think the memcg hard limit will not be
> > enforced? From what I understand, the memcg oom-killer will kill the
> > allocating processes as you have mentioned. We do force charging for
> > very limited conditions but here the memcg oom-killer will take care
> > of
>
> I was talking about the force charge part. Depending on a specific
> allocation and its life time this can gradually get us over hard limit
> without any bound theoretically.
>
> > Anyways, the kernel is already charging the memory for
> > [ip,ip6,arp]_tables and this patch adds the charging for ebtables.
> > Without this patch, as Kirill has described and shown by syzbot, a low
> > priority memcg can force system OOM.
>
> I am not opposing the patch per-se. I would just like the changelog to
> be more descriptive about the life time and consequences.
> --

I will resend the patch with more detailed change log.

thanks,
Shakeel