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Message-ID: <296B2961-9250-4E60-A8BF-535CD669A4B8@vmware.com>
Date:   Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:07:27 +0000
From:   Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
CC:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Edward Cree <ecree@...arflare.com>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw@...zon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 5/6] x86: learning and patching indirect branch targets

> On Dec 31, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:20 PM Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com> wrote:
>> During runtime, we collect the targets of indirect branch targets and
>> patch them in. Patching is done asynchronously, by modifying each of the
>> relpoline code-paths separately while diverting code execution to the
>> other path during patching. Preemption is disabled while the code runs,
>> and we wait for preemption to occur on each core to ensure no core is
>> executing the patched code.
>> 
>> To make use of relpolines, a worker goes over the experienced indirect
>> calls targets and sorts them according to frequency. The target that
>> was encountered most times is patched in.
>> 
>> Periodically, the indirect branches are set back into learning mode to
>> see whether the targets have changed. The current policy might be too
>> aggressive.
> 
> Can you put, in a comment somewhere, a clear description of the actual
> optpoline assembly sequence?  I'm finding this code very hard to
> follow as is.  Something like:
> 
> /*
> * An optpoline is:
> *
> * cmp something, something else
> * je somewhere
> * [repeats of the above]
> * RETPOLINE (i.e. call some thunk)
> */
> 

Sure. I will add it. The GCC plugin code [3/6] holds commented assembly
code, but I will add it to the commit log as well.

> And please make it correct.
> 
> Your comment says that preemption is disabled, but it's not obvious to
> me where this happens.
> 
> Also, you define REX_B and don't use it.  Are there other cases of that?

Yes, I was sloppy. The preemption is not disabled, and instead I used your
proposed approach of restartable sequences.

REX_B is used as KERNEL_RESTARTABLE_PREFIX in [3/6], [5/6] and [6/6]. I will
rename it.

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