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Date:   Wed, 9 Jan 2019 16:30:45 +1100
From:   David Gibson <>
To:     Benjamin Herrenschmidt <>
Cc:     Jason Gunthorpe <>, Leon Romanovsky <>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        Alexey Kardashevskiy <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add no-D3 quirk for Mellanox ConnectX-[45]

On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 04:09:02PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-01-07 at 21:01 -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
> > > In a very cryptic way that requires manual parsing using non-public
> > > docs sadly but yes. From the look of it, it's a completion timeout.
> > > 
> > > Looks to me like we don't get a response to a config space access
> > > during the change of D state. I don't know if it's the write of the D3
> > > state itself or the read back though (it's probably detected on the
> > > read back or a subsequent read, but that doesn't tell me which specific
> > > one failed).
> > 
> > If it is just one card doing it (again, check you have latest
> > firmware) I wonder if it is a sketchy PCI-E electrical link that is
> > causing a long re-training cycle? Can you tell if the PCI-E link is
> > permanently gone or does it eventually return?
> No, it's 100% reproducable on systems with that specific card model,
> not card instance, and maybe different systems/cards as well, I'll let
> David & Alexey comment further on that.

Well, it's 100% reproducable on a particular model of system
(garrison) with a particular model of card.  I've had some suggestions
that it fails with some other systems card card models, but nothing
confirmed - the one other system model I've been able to try, which
also had a newer card model didn't reproduce the problem.

> > Does the card work in Gen 3 when it starts? Is there any indication of
> > PCI-E link errors?
> Nope.
> > Everytime or sometimes?
> > 
> > POWER 8 firmware is good? If the link does eventually come back, is
> > the POWER8's D3 resumption timeout long enough?
> > 
> > If this doesn't lead to an obvious conclusion you'll probably need to
> > connect to IBM's Mellanox support team to get more information from
> > the card side.
> We are IBM :-) So far, it seems to be that the card is doing something
> not quite right, but we don't know what. We might need to engage
> Mellanox themselves.

Possibly.  On the other hand, I've had it reported that this is a
software regression at least with downstream red hat kernels.  I
haven't yet been able to eliminate factors that might be confusing
that, or try to find a working version upstream.

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