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Message-ID: <835C279A-815E-448F-9337-673F9A47CDAC@vmware.com>
Date:   Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:56:05 +0000
From:   Nadav Amit <namit@...are.com>
To:     Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
CC:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@...nel.org>,
        Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Jason Baron <jbaron@...mai.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
        David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Julia Cartwright <julia@...com>, Jessica Yu <jeyu@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Rasmus Villemoes <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>,
        Edward Cree <ecree@...arflare.com>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] Static calls

> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 09:36:59PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:46:39PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>>> I was referring to the fact that a single static call key update will
>>>>> usually result in patching multiple call sites.  But you're right, it's
>>>>> only 1-2 trampolines per text_poke_bp() invocation.  Though eventually
>>>>> we may want to batch all the writes like what Daniel has proposed for
>>>>> jump labels, to reduce IPIs.
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, my suggestion doesn't allow for batching, since it would
>>>> basically generate one trampoline for every rewritten instruction.
>>> 
>>> As Andy said, I think batching would still be possible, it's just that
>>> we'd have to create multiple trampolines at a time.
>>> 
>>> Or... we could do a hybrid approach: create a single custom trampoline
>>> which has the call destination patched in, but put the return address in
>>> %rax -- which is always clobbered, even for callee-saved PV ops.  Like:
>>> 
>>> trampoline:
>>> 	push %rax
>>> 	call patched-dest
>>> 
>>> That way the batching could be done with a single trampoline
>>> (particularly if using rcu-sched to avoid the sti hack).
>> 
>> I don’t see RCU-sched solves the problem if you don’t disable preemption. On
>> a fully preemptable kernel, you can get preempted between the push and the
>> call (jmp) or before the push. RCU-sched can then finish, and the preempted
>> task may later jump to a wrong patched-dest.
> 
> Argh, I misspoke about RCU-sched.  Words are hard.
> 
> I meant synchronize_rcu_tasks(), which is a completely different animal.
> My understanding is that it waits until all runnable tasks (including
> preempted tasks) have gotten a chance to run.

Actually, I just used the term you used, and thought about
synchronize_sched(). If you look at my patch [1], you’ll see I did something
similar using synchronize_sched(). But this required some delicate work of
restarting any preempted “optpoline” (or whatever name you want) block. 

[Note that my implementation has a terrible bug in this respect].

This is required since running a preempted task to does now prevent it from
being preempted again without doing any “real” progress.

If we want to adapt the same solution to static_calls, this means that in
retint_kernel (entry_64.S), you need check whether you got preempted inside
the trampoline and change the saved RIP in such case back, before the
static_call.

IMHO, sti+jmp is simpler.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181231072112.21051-6-namit@vmware.com/

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