linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched: Document Energy Aware Scheduling

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <20190118111114.dytdk7oq63illgkg@queper01-lin>
Date:   Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:11:16 +0000
From:   Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@....com>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Cc:     Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>,
        qais.yousef@....com, Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched: Document Energy Aware Scheduling

On Friday 18 Jan 2019 at 12:01:35 (+0100), Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:58 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:34 AM Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@....com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Rafael,
> > >
> > > On Friday 18 Jan 2019 at 10:57:08 (+0100), Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:16 AM Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@....com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Juri,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday 17 Jan 2019 at 16:51:17 (+0100), Juri Lelli wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/01/19 11:05, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > +The idea behind introducing an EM is to allow the scheduler to evaluate the
> > > > > > > +implications of its decisions rather than blindly applying energy-saving
> > > > > > > +techniques that may have positive effects only on some platforms. At the same
> > > > > > > +time, the EM must be as simple as possible to minimize the scheduler latency
> > > > > > > +impact.
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +In short, EAS changes the way CFS tasks are assigned to CPUs. When it is time
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not sure if we want to remark the fact that EAS is looking at CFS tasks
> > > > > > only ATM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, what's wrong about mentioning it ? I mean, it is a fact ATM ...
> > > >
> > > > But it won't hurt to mention that it may cover other scheduling
> > > > classes in the future.  IOW, the scope limit is not fundamental.
> > >
> > > Agreed, I can do that.
> > >
> > > > > > > +for the scheduler to decide where a task should run (during wake-up), the EM
> > > > > > > +is used to break the tie between several good CPU candidates and pick the one
> > > > > > > +that is predicted to yield the best energy consumption without harming the
> > > > > > > +system's throughput. The predictions made by EAS rely on specific elements of
> > > > > > > +knowledge about the platform's topology, which include the 'capacity' of CPUs,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Add a reference to DT bindings docs defining 'capacity' (or define it
> > > > > > somewhere)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, I can mention this is defined in the next section. But are you
> > > > > sure about the reference to the DT bindings ? They're arm-specific right ?
> > > > > Maybe I can give that as an example or something ...
> > > >
> > > > Example sounds right.
> > > >
> > > > You also can point to the section below from here.
> > >
> > > Sounds good.
> > >
> > > > Side note: If the doc is in the .rst format (which Peter won't like
> > > > I'm sure :-)), you can actually use cross-references in it and you get
> > > > a translation to an HTML doc (hosted at kernel.org) for free and the
> > > > cross-references become clickable links in that.
> > >
> > > Right, I personally don't mind the .rst format, but the existing files
> > > in Documentation/power/ and Documentation/scheduler/ are good old txt
> > > files so I just wanted to keep things consistent.
> >
> > In fact, Documentation/power/ is under a slow on-going transition to
> > .rst (due to the benefits mentioned above).
> >
> > > I don't mind converting to rst if necessary :-)
> >
> > It is not necessary, but maybe worth considering.
> 
> That said, as this is targeted at Documentation/scheduler/, being
> consistent with the other material in there is probably more
> important.

Right. Patch 01/02 is targeted at Documentation/power/ though. So if
that makes your life easier I can turn that one into a .rst file, no
problem at all.

Thanks,
Quentin