linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/vma: add support for peer to peer to device vma

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Date:   Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:03:09 -0500
From:   Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>
To:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:     Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...lanox.com>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Christian Koenig <christian.koenig@....com>,
        Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@....com>,
        "linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        "dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org" <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/vma: add support for peer to peer to device
 vma

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 09:02:03AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 01:50:27PM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > I do not see how VMA changes are any different than using struct page
> > in respect to userspace exposure. Those vma callback do not need to be
> > set by everyone, in fact expectation is that only handful of driver
> > will set those.
> > 
> > How can we do p2p between RDMA and GPU for instance, without exposure
> > to userspace ? At some point you need to tell userspace hey this kernel
> > does allow you to do that :)
> 
> To do RDMA on a memory region you need struct page backіng to start
> with..

No you do not with this patchset and there is no reason to tie RDMA to
struct page it does not provide a single feature we would need. So as
it can be done without and they are not benefit of using one i do not
see why we should use one.

Cheers,
Jérôme