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Date:   Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:46:22 -0700
From:   shuah <shuah@...nel.org>
To:     Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl>, mchehab@...nel.org,
        perex@...ex.cz, tiwai@...e.com
Cc:     linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        alsa-devel@...a-project.org, shuah <shuah@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/4] Media Device Allocator API

Hi Hans,

On 1/30/19 12:42 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 1/30/19 2:50 AM, shuah wrote:
>> On 1/29/19 2:43 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>> On 1/29/19 12:48 AM, shuah wrote:
>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>> On 1/28/19 5:03 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>>>> Hi Shuah,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/24/19 9:32 PM, Shuah Khan wrote:
>>>>>> Media Device Allocator API to allows multiple drivers share a media device.
>>>>>> This API solves a very common use-case for media devices where one physical
>>>>>> device (an USB stick) provides both audio and video. When such media device
>>>>>> exposes a standard USB Audio class, a proprietary Video class, two or more
>>>>>> independent drivers will share a single physical USB bridge. In such cases,
>>>>>> it is necessary to coordinate access to the shared resource.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using this API, drivers can allocate a media device with the shared struct
>>>>>> device as the key. Once the media device is allocated by a driver, other
>>>>>> drivers can get a reference to it. The media device is released when all
>>>>>> the references are released.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - This patch series is tested on 5.0-rc3 and addresses comments on
>>>>>>      v9 series from Hans Verkuil.
>>>>>> - v9 was tested on 4.20-rc6.
>>>>>> - Tested sharing resources with kaffeine, vlc, xawtv, tvtime, and
>>>>>>      arecord. When analog is streaming, digital and audio user-space
>>>>>>      applications detect that the tuner is busy and exit. When digital
>>>>>>      is streaming, analog and audio applications detect that the tuner is
>>>>>>      busy and exit. When arecord is owns the tuner, digital and analog
>>>>>>      detect that the tuner is busy and exit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been doing some testing with my au0828, and I am confused about one
>>>>> thing, probably because it has been too long ago since I last looked into
>>>>> this in detail:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great.
>>>>
>>>>> Why can't I change the tuner frequency if arecord (and only arecord) is
>>>>> streaming audio? If arecord is streaming, then it is recording the audio
>>>>> from the analog TV tuner, right? So changing the analog TV frequency
>>>>> should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Changing analog TV frequency would be s_frequency. The way it works is
>>>> any s_* calls would require holding the pipeline. In Analog TV case, it
>>>> would mean holding both audio and video pipelines for any changes
>>>> including TV.
>>>>
>>>> As I recall, we discussed this design and the decision was to make all
>>>> s_* calls interfaces to hold the tuner. A special exception is g_tuner
>>>> in case of au0828. au0828 initializes the tuner from s_* interfaces and
>>>> its g_tuner interfaces. Allowing s_frequency to proceed will disrupt the
>>>> arecord audio stream.
>>>>
>>>> Query (q_*) works just fine without holding the pipeline. I limited the
>>>> analog holds to just the ones that are required. The current set is
>>>> required to avoid audio stream disruptions.
>>>
>>> So I am not sure about that ('avoid audio stream disruptions'): if I
>>> stream video AND use arecord, then I can just set the frequency while
>>> streaming. Doesn't that interrupt audio as well? And are you sure changing
>>> the tuner frequency actually disrupts audio? And if audio is disrupted,
>>> are we talking about a glitch or is audio permanently disrupted?
>>
>> I think it is a glitch. I will run some tests and let you know.
>>>
>>> That's basically the inconsistent behavior I noticed: just running arecord
>>> will prevent me from changing the frequency, but if I run arecord and stream
>>> video, then it is suddenly OK to change the frequency.
>>
>> How are you changing frequency? I want to duplicate what you are doing.
> 
> v4l2-ctl -f <freq>

I am not seeing the inconsistent behavior. Here are my results.

1. Started acecord and while it is running:

arecord -M -D plughw:2,0 -c2  -f S16_LE -t wav foo.wav
Recording WAVE 'foo.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo

2. Ran v4l2-ctl -f as follows:

v4l2-ctl -f 700
VIDIOC_G_TUNER: failed: Device or resource busy
VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY: failed: Device or resource busy

Based on the current implementation, it failed with resource
busy as expected.

3. Started v4l2-ctl as follows:

  v4l2-ctl --stream-mmap --stream-count=100 -d /dev/video0
VIDIOC_STREAMON: failed: Device or resource busy
shuah@...eb:/mnt/data/lkml/v4l-utils/utils/v4l2-ctl$ v4l2-ctl -f 700
VIDIOC_G_TUNER: failed: Device or resource busy
VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY: failed: Device or resource busy

Based on the current implementation, it failed with resource
busy as expected.

4. After stopping arecord:

v4l2-ctl --stream-mmap --stream-count=100 -d /dev/video0
<<<<<<<<<<<<< 11.88 fps
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 13.36 fps
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 14.00 fps
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 14.35 fps
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 14.57 fps
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 14.71 fps
<<<<<<<<<


Worked as expected.


5. After stopping above video streaming:

arecord -M -D plughw:2,0 -c2  -f S16_LE -t wav foo.wav
Recording WAVE 'foo.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo


Worked as expected.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> BTW, I think there was also inconsistent behavior in the order of streaming
>>> audio and video: if I stream video first, then I can stream audio afterwards.
>>> But if I stream audio first, then (if I remember correctly) I can't start
>>> video streaming.
>>>

Okay this is what I saw:

While v4l2-ctl --stream-mmap --stream-count=100 -d /dev/video0

I could start arecord -M -D plughw:2,0 -c2  -f S16_LE -t wav foo.wav

I ran strace on v4l2-ctl --stream-mmap --stream-count=100 -d /dev/video0
and I didn't see AUDIO holds. The only think of here is that

v4l2-ctl --stream-mmap --stream-count=100 -d /dev/video0

doesn't open audio device. I didn't see this when tested with other
video apps, (tvtine, xawtv, vlc). When video is streaming, I see
arecord failing with device busy.

As far I can see, exclusion logic is working correctly. s_freq does
fail now based on the current logic.

btw I tested all of this on 5.0-rc4

thanks,
-- Shuah

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