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Date:   Thu, 7 Feb 2019 09:48:27 -0500
From:   Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@...hat.com>
To:     Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     rkrcmar@...hat.com, alexander.h.duyck@...ux.intel.com,
        x86@...nel.org, mingo@...hat.com, bp@...en8.de, hpa@...or.com,
        pbonzini@...hat.com, tglx@...utronix.de, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@...hat.com>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] kvm: Report unused guest pages to host


On 2/4/19 1:15 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> This patch set provides a mechanism by which guests can notify the host of
> pages that are not currently in use. Using this data a KVM host can more
> easily balance memory workloads between guests and improve overall system
> performance by avoiding unnecessary writing of unused pages to swap.
>
> In order to support this I have added a new hypercall to provided unused
> page hints and made use of mechanisms currently used by PowerPC and s390
> architectures to provide those hints. To reduce the overhead of this call
> I am only using it per huge page instead of of doing a notification per 4K
> page. By doing this we can avoid the expense of fragmenting higher order
> pages, and reduce overall cost for the hypercall as it will only be
> performed once per huge page.
>
> Because we are limiting this to huge pages it was necessary to add a
> secondary location where we make the call as the buddy allocator can merge
> smaller pages into a higher order huge page.
>
> This approach is not usable in all cases. Specifically, when KVM direct
> device assignment is used, the memory for a guest is permanently assigned
> to physical pages in order to support DMA from the assigned device. In
> this case we cannot give the pages back, so the hypercall is disabled by
> the host.
>
> Another situation that can lead to issues is if the page were accessed
> immediately after free. For example, if page poisoning is enabled the
> guest will populate the page *after* freeing it. In this case it does not
> make sense to provide a hint about the page being freed so we do not
> perform the hypercalls from the guest if this functionality is enabled.
Hi Alexander,

Did you get a chance to look at my v8 posting of Guest Free Page Hinting
[1]?
Considering both the solutions are trying to solve the same problem. It
will be great if we can collaborate and come up with a unified solution.

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/2/4/993
>
> My testing up till now has consisted of setting up 4 8GB VMs on a system
> with 32GB of memory and 4GB of swap. To stress the memory on the system I
> would run "memhog 8G" sequentially on each of the guests and observe how
> long it took to complete the run. The observed behavior is that on the
> systems with these patches applied in both the guest and on the host I was
> able to complete the test with a time of 5 to 7 seconds per guest. On a
> system without these patches the time ranged from 7 to 49 seconds per
> guest. I am assuming the variability is due to time being spent writing
> pages out to disk in order to free up space for the guest.
>
> ---
>
> Alexander Duyck (4):
>       madvise: Expose ability to set dontneed from kernel
>       kvm: Add host side support for free memory hints
>       kvm: Add guest side support for free memory hints
>       mm: Add merge page notifier
>
>
>  Documentation/virtual/kvm/cpuid.txt      |    4 ++
>  Documentation/virtual/kvm/hypercalls.txt |   14 ++++++++
>  arch/x86/include/asm/page.h              |   25 +++++++++++++++
>  arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h     |    3 ++
>  arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c                    |   51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  arch/x86/kvm/cpuid.c                     |    6 +++-
>  arch/x86/kvm/x86.c                       |   35 +++++++++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/gfp.h                      |    4 ++
>  include/linux/mm.h                       |    2 +
>  include/uapi/linux/kvm_para.h            |    1 +
>  mm/madvise.c                             |   13 +++++++-
>  mm/page_alloc.c                          |    2 +
>  12 files changed, 158 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> --
-- 
Regards
Nitesh



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