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Message-ID: <20ABBED1-E505-45F6-8520-FB93786DF9A9@zytor.com>
Date:   Fri, 15 Feb 2019 20:06:56 -0800
From:   hpa@...or.com
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
CC:     Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, mingo@...hat.com,
        catalin.marinas@....com, james.morse@....com,
        valentin.schneider@....com, brgerst@...il.com, jpoimboe@...hat.com,
        luto@...nel.org, bp@...en8.de, dvlasenk@...hat.com,
        torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, tglx@...utronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch

On February 14, 2019 2:14:29 AM PST, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 02:49:47PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
>> Do we need to backport this thing?
>
>Possibly, just to be safe.
>
>> The problem can’t be too widespread or we would have heard of it
>before.
>
>Yes, so far we've been lucky.
>
>---
>Subject: sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch
>From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
>Date: Thu Feb 14 10:30:52 CET 2019
>
>Effectively revert commit:
>
>  2c7577a75837 ("sched/x86_64: Don't save flags on context switch")
>
>Specifically because SMAP uses FLAGS.AC which invalidates the claim
>that the kernel has clean flags.
>
>In particular; while preemption from interrupt return is fine (the
>IRET frame on the exception stack contains FLAGS) it breaks any code
>that does synchonous scheduling, including preempt_enable().
>
>This has become a significant issue ever since commit:
>
>5b24a7a2aa20 ("Add 'unsafe' user access functions for batched
>accesses")
>
>provided for means of having 'normal' C code between STAC / CLAC,
>exposing the FLAGS.AC state. So far this hasn't led to trouble,
>however fix it before it comes apart.
>
>Fixes: 5b24a7a2aa20 ("Add 'unsafe' user access functions for batched
>accesses")
>Acked-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
>Reported-by: Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@....com>
>Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@...radead.org>
>---
> arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S        |    2 ++
> arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S        |    2 ++
> arch/x86/include/asm/switch_to.h |    1 +
> 3 files changed, 5 insertions(+)
>
>--- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
>+++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
>@@ -650,6 +650,7 @@ ENTRY(__switch_to_asm)
> 	pushl	%ebx
> 	pushl	%edi
> 	pushl	%esi
>+	pushfl
> 
> 	/* switch stack */
> 	movl	%esp, TASK_threadsp(%eax)
>@@ -672,6 +673,7 @@ ENTRY(__switch_to_asm)
> #endif
> 
> 	/* restore callee-saved registers */
>+	popfl
> 	popl	%esi
> 	popl	%edi
> 	popl	%ebx
>--- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S
>+++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S
>@@ -291,6 +291,7 @@ ENTRY(__switch_to_asm)
> 	pushq	%r13
> 	pushq	%r14
> 	pushq	%r15
>+	pushfq
> 
> 	/* switch stack */
> 	movq	%rsp, TASK_threadsp(%rdi)
>@@ -313,6 +314,7 @@ ENTRY(__switch_to_asm)
> #endif
> 
> 	/* restore callee-saved registers */
>+	popfq
> 	popq	%r15
> 	popq	%r14
> 	popq	%r13
>--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/switch_to.h
>+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/switch_to.h
>@@ -40,6 +40,7 @@ asmlinkage void ret_from_fork(void);
>  * order of the fields must match the code in __switch_to_asm().
>  */
> struct inactive_task_frame {
>+	unsigned long flags;
> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
> 	unsigned long r15;
> 	unsigned long r14;

This implies we invoke schedule -- a restricted operation (consider may_sleep) during execution of STAC-enabled code, but *not* as an exception or interrupt, since those preserve the flags.

I have serious concerns about this. This is more or less saying that we have left an unlimited gap and have had AC escape.

Does *anyone* see a need to allow this? I got a question at LPC from someone about this, and what they were trying to do once all the layers had been unwound was so far down the wrong track for a root problem that actually has a very simple solution.

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