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Date:   Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:43:09 -0800
From:   Subhra Mazumdar <>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <>,
        Greg Kerr <>
Cc:,, Paul Turner <>,,,,,
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: Core scheduling

On 2/20/19 1:42 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 02:07:01PM -0800, Greg Kerr wrote:
>> Thanks for posting this patchset Peter. Based on the patch titled, "sched: A
>> quick and dirty cgroup tagging interface," I believe cgroups are used to
>> define co-scheduling groups in this implementation.
>> Chrome OS engineers (,, and
>> are considering an interface that is usable by unprivileged
>> userspace apps. cgroups are a global resource that require privileged access.
>> Have you considered an interface that is akin to namespaces? Consider the
>> following strawperson API proposal (I understand prctl() is generally
>> used for process
>> specific actions, so we aren't married to using prctl()):
> I don't think we're anywhere near the point where I care about
> interfaces with this stuff.
> Interfaces are a trivial but tedious matter once the rest works to
> satisfaction.
> As it happens; there is actually a bug in that very cgroup patch that
> can cause undesired scheduling. Try spotting and fixing that.
> Another question is if we want to be L1TF complete (and how strict) or
> not, and if so, build the missing pieces (for instance we currently
> don't kick siblings on IRQ/trap/exception entry -- and yes that's nasty
> and horrible code and missing for that reason).
I remember asking Paul about this and he mentioned he has a Address Space
Isolation proposal to cover this. So it seems this is out of scope of
core scheduling?
> So first; does this provide what we need? If that's sorted we can
> bike-shed on uapi/abi.

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