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Date:   Tue, 5 Mar 2019 11:05:52 -0500
From:   Zack Weinberg <>
To:     Lukasz Majewski <>
Cc:     Arnd Bergmann <>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
        Joseph Myers <>,
        GNU C Library <>
Subject: Re: [Y2038] Question regarding support of old time interfaces beyond y2038

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:24 AM Lukasz Majewski <> wrote:
> From other discussion [4] - regarding the following system calls:
>  time, stime, gettimeofday, settimeofday, adjtimex, nanosleep, alarm,
>  getitimer, setitimer, select, utime, utimes, futimesat, and
>  {old,new}{l,f,}stat{,64}.
> "These all pass 32-bit time_t arguments on 32-bit
>  architectures and are replaced by other interfaces (e.g. posix
>  timers and clocks, statx). C libraries implementing 64-bit time_t in
>  32-bit architectures have to implement the handles by wrapping
>  around the newer interfaces."

1) We should be clear that most of these will continue to be supported
as C library interfaces even if they are not system calls.  Some of
them are obsolete enough and/or rarely used enough that we might not
bother (the older ways to set the system clock, for instance).

2) I know of one case where the new interfaces don't cover all of the
functionality of the old ones: timers started by setitimer continue to
run after an execve, timers started by timer_create don't.  This means
setitimer(ITIMER_VIRTUAL) can be used to impose a CPU time limit on a
program you didn't write, and timer_create can't.  If new kernels are
not going to have setitimer as a primitive, we need some other way of
getting the same effect.


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