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Date:   Tue, 5 Mar 2019 10:36:09 -0600
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Douglas Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>,
        Robin Meijboom <robin@...jboom.info>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
        Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] objtool: move tools/objtool/ to scripts/objtool/

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:08:27AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> > I do see the benefits.  In many ways objtool is a more natural fit in
> > the scripts dir.  But there are also some downsides to this change:
> >
> > - This will make it harder to package objtool as a standalone tool.  It
> >   has a lot of functionality that could be useful to other non-kernel
> >   projects.
> 
> 
> If it is really useful for other projects,
> I'd like to see it as a real standalone tool,
> i.e. split as a separate project.

Fine, but who's going to do it?  I don't have time for creating such a
project anytime soon.  And anyway, moving the code to scripts in the
meantime would just make that harder when we do it eventually.

> > - It shares libsubcmd with perf.  Including the subcmd .c files from
> >   tools is hacky.
> 
> Yes, hacky. We are shifting the ugliness between C and Build system.
> 
> But, this hack can be solved; if subcmd library is useful, you can copy
> only necessary code into the objtool directory. You do not need all
> helpers from libsubcmd.

But then we are duplicating code...

> > - It's disruptive: it will break all the out-of-tree distro kernel
> >   packaging scripts which now look for objtool in tools.
> 
> All artifacts under scripts/ should be contained in the package.
> So, it should work.

It *will* break distro scripts which already expect objtool to be
located at tools/objtool/objtool.

> > You're right that objtool isn't a natural fit in tools, because it's
> > also used as part of the build.  But it's not a natural fit in scripts
> > either.  I think we've resolved most of those issues and it seems to be
> > working well these days.
> >
> > So instead of disrupting everything because "make mrproper" doesn't
> > work, I think I'd rather just do the following:
> >
> > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
> > index ac5ac28a24e9..7e6696c9b862 100644
> > --- a/Makefile
> > +++ b/Makefile
> > @@ -1364,7 +1364,7 @@ PHONY += $(mrproper-dirs) mrproper
> >  $(mrproper-dirs):
> >         $(Q)$(MAKE) $(clean)=$(patsubst _mrproper_%,%,$@)
> >
> > -mrproper: clean $(mrproper-dirs)
> > +mrproper: clean $(mrproper-dirs) tools/objtool_clean
> >         $(call cmd,rmdirs)
> >         $(call cmd,rmfiles)
> >
> 
> Works, and the clean log is also brilliant.
> 
> I see the same log even when
> there is nothing to clean.
> 
> 
> masahiro@...ver:~/ref/linux$ make mrproper
>   CLEAN   .
>   CLEAN   arch/x86/entry/vdso
>   CLEAN   usr
>   CLEAN   arch/x86/tools
>   CLEAN   .tmp_versions
>   CLEAN   scripts/basic
>   CLEAN   scripts/kconfig
>   CLEAN   scripts/mod
>   CLEAN   scripts/selinux/genheaders
>   CLEAN   scripts/selinux/mdp
>   CLEAN   scripts
>   DESCEND  objtool
>   CLEAN    objtool
>   CLEAN   include/config include/generated arch/x86/include/generated
>   CLEAN   .config
> masahiro@...ver:~/ref/linux$ make mrproper
>   DESCEND  objtool
>   CLEAN    objtool
> masahiro@...ver:~/ref/linux$ make mrproper
>   DESCEND  objtool
>   CLEAN    objtool

Ok, but I'm sure that could be fixed.  That's hardly a justification to
move objtool.

Anyway I would like to hear what Ingo and Peter think about moving it.

-- 
Josh

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