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Date:   Wed, 6 Mar 2019 10:49:04 -0500
From:   Jerome Glisse <>
To:     Andrew Morton <>
Cc:     Dan Williams <>,
        Linux MM <>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
        Ralph Campbell <>,
        John Hubbard <>,
        linux-fsdevel <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] mm/hmm: allow to mirror vma of a file on a DAX
 backed filesystem

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 02:16:35PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:44:46 -0800 Dan Williams <> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Another way to help allay these worries is commit to no new exports
> > > > without in-tree users. In general, that should go without saying for
> > > > any core changes for new or future hardware.
> > >
> > > I always intend to have an upstream user the issue is that the device
> > > driver tree and the mm tree move a different pace and there is always
> > > a chicken and egg problem. I do not think Andrew wants to have to
> > > merge driver patches through its tree, nor Linus want to have to merge
> > > drivers and mm trees in specific order. So it is easier to introduce
> > > mm change in one release and driver change in the next. This is what
> > > i am doing with ODP. Adding things necessary in 5.1 and working with
> > > Mellanox to have the ODP HMM patch fully tested and ready to go in
> > > 5.2 (the patch is available today and Mellanox have begin testing it
> > > AFAIK). So this is the guideline i will be following. Post mm bits
> > > with driver patches, push to merge mm bits one release and have the
> > > driver bits in the next. I do hope this sound fine to everyone.
> > 
> > The track record to date has not been "merge HMM patch in one release
> > and merge the driver updates the next". If that is the plan going
> > forward that's great, and I do appreciate that this set came with
> > driver changes, and maintain hope the existing exports don't go
> > user-less for too much longer.
> Decision time.  Jerome, how are things looking for getting these driver
> changes merged in the next cycle?

nouveau is merge already.

> Dan, what's your overall take on this series for a 5.1-rc1 merge?
> Jerome, what would be the risks in skipping just this [09/10] patch?

As nouveau is a new user it does not regress anything but for RDMA
mlx5 (which i expect to merge new window) it would regress that


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